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Offline khaled

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #190 on: October 26, 2014, 11:59:29 AM »
Thankx Ron

im a newbee to this i am using turn wizard both the mouse left and right  right moves the part up and side and the left key zooms and the scroll also zooms how can i change the settings so the mouse when i click it it will rotate or angle my part? when i use the mill wizard it works fine the left click rotates and right up and down scroll zooms but turn wizard does not

how would i do the tool change in the turn wizard im used to the mill sorry and the safe location?

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #191 on: October 26, 2014, 02:05:38 PM »
The turn wizard simply uses the mach3 lathe toolpath window, has no control over the toolpath.

Tool change is one of the operation buttons, along the center of the screen near the left side.

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #192 on: October 26, 2014, 03:23:25 PM »
I have watched youtube videos about nfs turn wizard where they are able to rotate the part on the screen so could it be some settings?

on my screen all i see in the centre to the left is tool number  on the right hand side is option change tool but nothing happens when i click the button does not turn green
here is some screenshot

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #193 on: November 01, 2014, 10:04:41 PM »
Hi Ron
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Been away on holiday. Thanks for looking into it and cheers for pointing me in the right direction.

Mick

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #194 on: January 11, 2015, 03:02:32 PM »
Hi,
very new at lathe work.  I am almost done converting my Grizzly G0602 to CNC   I have been playing around a bit with Mach 3 and the Mach 3 Turn Wizards cutting air (still need to complete the QCTP mount) and I have a question about tool changes.
I built a file that has these operations...

new turn file created
new tool selected
facing
new tool selected
turning
new tool selected
drill
file ended

I copy pasted the gcode below snipping some of the drill op code to make it shorter.
My question is why doesn't the machine stop to change the tool?  There seems to be an M6 in the code but it just goes to the next op w/o stopping.
with my Tormach mill it will stop and ask for a tool change then I just click on cycle start and it will proceed to the next tool change.
What am I missing?
Thanks,
Gerry

(***New Turn File Started***)
(by  Licensed NFS Turn V.06)
(1/11/2015 2:14:08 PM)
(user supplied init code)
G54
(***New Tool Selected***)
( Unnamed tool)
G00 Z 1.5
G00 x 1
M6 T1
M3 S 2400
G01 F 20
(***Facing***)
(Xstart= 0 Xend= 1 )
(Zstart= 0.1 Zend= -0.03 Zcut= 0.03125)
(will make 5cuts of 0.026)
G00 Z 0.1
G00 X 0
(Start Pass 1)
G01 X 1
G00 Z 0.11
G00 X 0
G00 Z 0.1
G00 Z 0.074
(Start Pass 2)
G01 X 1
G00 Z 0.084
G00 X 0
G00 Z 0.074
G00 Z 0.048
(Start Pass 3)
G01 X 1
G00 Z 0.058
G00 X 0
G00 Z 0.048
G00 Z 0.022
(Start Pass 4)
G01 X 1
G00 Z 0.032
G00 X 0
G00 Z 0.022
G00 Z -0.004
(Start Pass 5)
G01 X 1
G00 Z 0.006
G00 X 0
G00 Z -0.004
G00 Z -0.03
(Last pass)
G01 Z -0.03
G01 X 1
G00 Z -0.02
G00 Z 0.1
G00 X 1
(***New Tool Selected***)
( Unnamed tool)
G00 Z 1.5
G00 x 1
M6 T2
M3 S 2400
G01 F 20
(***Turning***)
(Xstart= 0.47 Xend= 0.31 Xcut= 0.04)
(Zstart= 0 Zend= -6)
(will make 2 cuts of 0.04)
G00 X 0.43
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 1)
G01 X 0.43
G01 Z -6
G00 X 0.53
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 2)
G01 X 0.39
G01 Z -6
G00 X 0.49
G00 Z 0
(Last pass)
G01 X 0.31
G01 Z -6
G00 X 0.45
G00 X 0.47 Z 0
(***New Tool Selected***)
( Unnamed tool)
G00 Z 1.5
G00 x 1
M6 T3
M3 S 2400
G01 F 20
(***Drill***)
(Zsafe= 1 Zstart=0 Zend=-6)
(Peck-retract cycle)
(Peck= 0.25Retract= 0.25 )
sniped to make text shorter for post
(***File Ended***)
(1/11/2015 2:14:41 PM)
M5
M9
(user supplied end code)
M30
(Wizard Exit)




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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #195 on: January 11, 2015, 07:08:38 PM »
Do you have any tools defined in the tool table?
How will your tools be changed? Manualy?

RICH

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #196 on: January 11, 2015, 07:28:36 PM »
First look at the setting in the general config- do you have it set for automatic tool change? Then look at the M6 macros in your macro folder under your profile name. Also it looks like you entered on 1 in the tool number- for turn operations the tool number must be in the form of 0101 which is the tool number and the offset number to use. When you enter the number in the DRO it will only show as 101, VB likes to wipe off the leading zero.

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #197 on: January 12, 2015, 06:14:34 AM »
Do you have any tools defined in the tool table?
How will your tools be changed? Manualy?

RICH

No, not yet
Yes, manualy

First look at the setting in the general config- do you have it set for automatic tool change? Then look at the M6 macros in your macro folder under your profile name. Also it looks like you entered on 1 in the tool number- for turn operations the tool number must be in the form of 0101 which is the tool number and the offset number to use. When you enter the number in the DRO it will only show as 101, VB likes to wipe off the leading zero.

I will try that tonite after work.
Thank you Rich and Ron for the quick replies.
Gerry

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #198 on: January 13, 2015, 04:36:21 PM »
Hi Ron,
The tool change options in general config was set at "ignore tool change".  I changed it to the stop spindle wait for cycle restart and it works great now.
Thank you.
Gerry

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Re: NFS Turn Wizard
« Reply #199 on: February 16, 2015, 10:12:58 AM »
A couple of questions.
I downloaded and installed the file (NFSturn008.zip) at the beginning of this thread but when I open the NFS turn wizard it shows it as being "licensed NFS Turn V 0.6".
Do I have v 08 or 06?

Also I have been trying to understand the various wizards and doing so I keep having a problem with the NFS wizard doing unexpected things and the standard turn wizard doing what I expect when doing the same type of operation.  For example, I can do a turning op in the standard wizard with no problem but when trying to do the same type of op in NFSTurn the lathe keeps hitting either the plus X limit switch or the -Z limit switch on initial move.  I believe I am entering the same perimeters in the boxes but to be honest I could be a little confused on what I'm supposed to put in them... X End, X start, etc.  I seem to be doing it right in the standard wizard but must be getting it wrong in NFSturn.

Is there any documentation or manual for NFSTurn?  I found Ron's video on intro to NFSTurn but I am wondering if there is something out there that steps you through each operation and what each data box is for.

Sorry, I am very new at lathe work and maybe if I was more experienced the screens and how and what each entry means would be more self explanatory.

Thanks,
Gerry

Here is the Gcode from the standard wizard
G18 G40 G49 G90 G94 G80
M3
G0 X1.331 Z0.1
F10
G0 X1.091
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.291 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X1.051
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.251 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X1.011
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.211 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X0.971
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.171 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X0.931
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.131 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X0.891
G1 Z-0.995
G0 X1.091 Z-0.9
G0 Z0.1
G0 X0.891
G0 Z0.1
G1 Z-0.995
G1 X1.331
G0 Z0.1
F5
G0 X0.881
G1 Z-1
G1 X1.331
G0 Z0.1
M5
M30


And here is Gcode from NFS
(***New Turn File Started***)
(by  Licensed NFS Turn V.06)
(2/16/2015 9:24:26 AM)
(user supplied init code)
G54
(***New Tool Selected***)
( Unnamed tool)
G00 Z 1.5
G00 x 1
M6 T101
M3 S 2400
G01 F 10
(***Turning***)
(Xstart= 1.131 Xend= 0.881 Xcut= 0.015)
(Zstart= 0 Zend= -1)
(will make 15 cuts of 0.015)
G00 X 1.116
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 1)
G01 X 1.116
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.216
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 2)
G01 X 1.101
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.201
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 3)
G01 X 1.086
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.186
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 4)
G01 X 1.071
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.171
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 5)
G01 X 1.056
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.156
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 6)
G01 X 1.041
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.141
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 7)
G01 X 1.026
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.126
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 8)
G01 X 1.011
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.111
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 9)
G01 X 0.996
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.096
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 10)
G01 X 0.981
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.081
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 11)
G01 X 0.966
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.066
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 12)
G01 X 0.951
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.051
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 13)
G01 X 0.936
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.036
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 14)
G01 X 0.921
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.021
G00 Z 0
(Start Pass 15)
G01 X 0.906
G01 Z -1
G00 X 1.006
G00 Z 0
(Last pass)
G01 X 0.881
G01 Z -1
G00 X 0.991
G00 X 1.131 Z 0
(***File Ended***)
(2/16/2015 9:24:55 AM)
M5
M9
(user supplied end code)
M30
(Wizard Exit)