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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #170 on: December 07, 2012, 04:49:19 PM »
I hear a rewire is in progress.Can someone send a connection diagram for a proximity switch to Carnoustie,apparently some I`s are not and vice versa. :D
I told him that would happen if he copied the ladder from a window cleaners van.
Never mind,all the flashing leds fit in well with the Christmas decorations. :D
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 04:51:21 PM by Gridley51 »

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #171 on: December 08, 2012, 11:23:14 AM »
Well you were right Granny McGrath, wiring changes were needed, well really just one and a removal of another. Problem was when some dipwad removed the cylinder and prox's from Tool 10 they decided to link out tool 10 up prox'x signal wire back to the PLC. Instead of putting Tool 10 Up wire  to +24v like you would expect they connected it to tool 11 up prox. Rather a strange thing to do as either they must have had to change the ladder or the ladder did not have any real interlocks in place. I think the former as I cant see the Germans doing a ladder that was not watertight.
There was another problem, the Tool 10 down prox wire had been chopped off and left hanging, this had linked out two of the other prox's (tool 2 Up and Tool 3 down) so that there were false signals going back through to the PLC.
One last issue was the prox on tool 1 Up was too low, this meant when fully up the prox had been passed so was not being seen, simple loosen of the set screw and adjust and its fine.

Now all I have to do is wait for the cables to arrive so that I can make up a serial connection between PLC and Computer and I can then test out the ladder :)

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #172 on: December 08, 2012, 11:53:15 AM »
Well you were right Granny McGrath, wiring changes were needed,  

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 Computer and I can then test out the ladder :)

Hood

Some day when you`re older Dobie I`ll explain plc`s and ladders to you.:D
If I had bought a machine with no cnc control and no servo drives,I`d hardly blame someone else when I make a total pigs ear of the wiring and programming of my plc.
However if you feel better for it,I don`t mind and will even put your toys back in the pram for you,but it`s still your turn for the fish suppers next time I`m up.
Did I mention my cables from the same place as yours and ordered two days later appeared yesterday? :D
« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 11:56:04 AM by Gridley51 »

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #173 on: December 08, 2012, 12:08:06 PM »
The cylinder was missing when I got the Chiron, along with the prox's so I presume it was the previous owner that removed them and altered the ladder. Oh wait no it must have been the owner previous to him as the previous one couldnt alter Siemens ladders ;D
BTW hows the Churchill repairs going, should be nearly finished by now as its only been broken for 2 years, then again the Mazak hasnt worked yet and you have had that at least 6 years, maybe one day you will manage to work things out ;D

And heres a pic of the rather strange way the Tool 10 prox was linked out, why it was done that way I have no idea, only a clown would link it to another tools prox ;)

Hood
« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 12:11:04 PM by Hood »
Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #174 on: December 08, 2012, 12:48:22 PM »
You guys been married long?

Picking on each other like you have shared the same fart sack.  ;D
Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #175 on: December 08, 2012, 06:11:16 PM »
You have to make allowances for Robin Dempster aka Hood.
He still thinks he discovered electricity a couple of years back and he`s not too competent on the social skills either. :D
He conveniently forgets that things beyond my control have held up my work programme for the last four years.
But my business has still managed to make profits during these years.
Enough profits that enables one to sell scrap machines cheap to the poor boys.
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #176 on: December 08, 2012, 06:57:32 PM »
ouch!  :D
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #177 on: December 09, 2012, 03:03:29 AM »
Thankfully being obsessed with money is not one of my flaws ;)
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #178 on: December 09, 2012, 12:02:39 PM »
Surely it's the job of the person doing the retrofit to check wiring?

And one mans scrap is another mans gold ;)

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #179 on: December 09, 2012, 12:38:50 PM »
ONLY the noble Robin HOOD could make that claim.

Well said Sir Robin of Hood.

(;-) TP