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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #110 on: November 04, 2012, 03:06:05 AM »
John, is that box ways? What size motors does it have for X Y Z?
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2012, 07:14:02 AM »
Hi Hood yes box ways. It has encoders on the ball screws x and y the z encoder is on the motor.
The motors are Siemens 1ft 5066 3000 rpm not sure on the nm rating but they are geared 2:1 with pulleys. 15m/min rapids x and y and 10m/Min on the z.

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2012, 08:00:59 AM »
Hi Hood yes box ways. It has encoders on the ball screws x and y the z encoder is on the motor.
The motors are Siemens 1ft 5066 3000 rpm not sure on the nm rating but they are geared 2:1 with pulleys. 15m/min rapids x and y and 10m/Min on the z.

John.

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2012, 08:02:19 AM »
Hi Hood yes box ways. It has encoders on the ball screws x and y the z encoder is on the motor.
The motors are Siemens 1ft 5066 3000 rpm not sure on the nm rating but they are geared 2:1 with pulleys. 15m/min rapids x and y and 10m/Min on the z.

John.

The motors are 6.5 Nm.Are you running them from a Siemens 6SC610 drive?

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2012, 09:04:10 AM »
Hi Mark yes 6sc610 drives rod 456 500ppr encoders and heidenhain tnc 355b control.

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2012, 09:09:59 AM »
Any one after a 4th axis have this for sale on eBay item no: 281012873231

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281012873231?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2012, 01:46:20 PM »
Thought it must have been bigger motors seeing it had the box ways, the Chiron had 1FT5064 4000rpm . Chiron is also geared 2:1 also with 10mm pitch screws.
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2012, 02:08:36 PM »
Looks like the machines are copies of each other don't know which design came first? This is one of the  early Partsmasters with the single door..most have two doors and the Z axis encoder is on the ball screw on the later machines.

It  has a 7.5 hp dc spindle motor although the manual says it should be 7.5kw but this one isn't was maybe ordered with the smaller motor not sure why though..

John
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2012, 02:22:40 PM »
Similar style right enough but quite a few differences, yours has 40 spindle taper, the Chiron is 30. Yours has box ways and Chiron has linear rails.
The spindle motor on this was 6000RPM and think about 9.5Kw. I have a motor of similar KW but only 3800rpm so not sure what I am going to do yet. I will probably just bolt it on for the moment and maybe try and make an increaser gearbox for it at a later stage. Torque of my motor is more than double the original so it should be fine if I do that.
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Re: Chiron FZ12 on its way sometime soon(ish)
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2012, 03:00:41 PM »
Looks like they were using the big motor to keep the torque at 6000rpm mines limited to 3500rpm. Did it use a servo spindle a 1ft5074?

John.