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ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« on: April 04, 2018, 11:19:19 AM »
HI Guys,

I need some help, I am doing a retrofit in a mill that have a ATC with a geneva wheel
It  is working fine with the inputs and output the problem that i have is the count and i cannot figerout what is the problem
when the ATC is in tool1 for example and i insert T2M6 the ATC go to tool 2 but when the ATC is in tool 1 and i insert T3M6 it go to tool 2 so it is only counting 1


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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2018, 12:21:41 PM »
Hello,

i think the Problem is in this Sub:


'Sequence to determine the least travel to move for TC, CW or CCW
'atp = Actual tool position, rtp = Requested tool positon
Sub LeastTravel()
   NTool = 16 ' Number of tools changer holds
   CWPos = GetSelectedTool() - GetCurrentTool() ' Assume a CW move
   If CWPos < 0 Then ' CWPos < 0 ==> rtp < atp
      CWPos = CWPos + NTools
   End If
   CCWPos = NTools - CWPos
   If CWPos < CCWPos Then
      call CW()
   Else
      call CCW()
   End If
End Sub

should be IMHO


'Sequence to determine the least travel to move for TC, CW or CCW
'atp = Actual tool position, rtp = Requested tool positon
Sub LeastTravel()
   NTools = 16 ' Number of tools changer holds
   CWPos = GetSelectedTool() - GetCurrentTool() ' Assume a CW move
   If CWPos < 0 Then ' CWPos < 0 ==> rtp < atp
      CWPos = CWPos + NTools
   End If
   CCWPos = NTools - CWPos
   If CWPos < CCWPos Then
      call CW()
   Else
      call CCW()
   End If
End Sub

« Last Edit: April 04, 2018, 12:23:19 PM by TPS »
anything is possible, just try to do it.
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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2018, 12:52:54 AM »
I Change the Ntools to Ntool and vice versa but no luck i think that the problem is in the count of OEMTrig 9 it is only counting 1 , i spend long hours but i cannot see the mistake 

'Sequence to determine the least travel to move for TC, CW or CCW
'atp = Actual tool position, rtp = Requested tool positon
Sub LeastTravel()
   NTool = 16 ' Number of tools changer holds
   CWPos = GetSelectedTool() - GetCurrentTool() ' Assume a CW move
   If CWPos < 0 Then ' CWPos < 0 ==> rtp < atp
      CWPos = CWPos + NTool
   End If
   CCWPos = NTool - CWPos
   If CWPos < CCWPos Then
      call CW()
   Else
      call CCW()
   End If
End Sub

Function CW()'Rotation CW
   Dim x As Integer
   Dim CTPos As Integer 'Carrousel Tool Position Relative to OldTool Position
   CTPos=0
   ActivateSignal(OUTPUT9)'Turns the AC Motor On cw

   Sleep(50)

   For x=0 To CWPos
           While IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is off
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
           While NOT IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is on
      Sleep(10)
      Wend

            x=x+1
        Next x
    CTPos=x
   DeactivateSignal(OUTPUT9)

End Function

Function CCW()'Rotation CCW
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim CTPos As Integer 'Carrousel Tool Position Relative to OldTool Position
   CTPos=0
   Activatesignal(OUTPUT9)'atc motor revirsing relay
   ActivateSignal(OUTPUT10)'Turns the AC Motor On
    Sleep(50)
   
     For y=0 To CCWPos
           While IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is off
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
           While NOT IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is on
      Sleep(10)
      Wend

            y=y+1
        Next y
   CTPos=y
   DeactivateSignal(OUTPUT9)
   Deactivatesignal(OUTPUT10)'atc motor revirsing relay
End Function

Function AtcUp()'MAG UP
   DeActivateSignal(OUTPUT11)'relay for solonoid to lower/MAG UP
   code("G04 p01")'pause
           While IsActive(OEMTrig5)'Wait for OEMTrig5 is off Mag up
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
           While NOT IsActive(OEMTrig5)'Wait for OEMTrig5 is on Mag up
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
End Function

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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 01:27:32 AM »
try to use a Input instead of OEMTrig.

what Controller are you using?
anything is possible, just try to do it.
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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 03:46:08 AM »
Hi ,
I am Using CSMIO IPS

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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 03:50:34 AM »
so why do you not read the Input drectly.
this work 100%, if have used it many times.

for eample

While GetCsmioIn(91,15) = False  
   Sleep(20)
Wend


'CSMIO read input
Public Function GetCsmioIn (ByVal adr As Integer, ByVal n As Integer) As Boolean
   If(GetInBit(adr, n)) Then
      GetCsmioIn = true
   Else
      GetCsmioIn = false
   End If
End Function




here is a links witch Shows the adresses:

http://en.cs-lab.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/csmio-ip-s-konfiguracja-we_wy-artykul.pdf

« Last Edit: April 05, 2018, 03:52:31 AM by TPS »
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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2018, 04:13:53 AM »
i Try with INPUT4 but still no luck i cannot understand why it is count 1 pulse on input4

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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2018, 04:24:35 AM »
Hi I Can see the input is reading i can see from csmio input21 and from mach3 it is true input 4 i can see the led on and off

i dont know if it is from the logic since for example input 4 if the ATC jump for 2 tools it need to count 2 pulse in input 4 and it is always counting 1

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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2018, 04:24:43 AM »
if you put some Addition MSGBox instruction to your CW Routine you can how often
Input gets triggered

Function CCW()'Rotation CCW
   Dim y As Integer
   Dim CTPos As Integer 'Carrousel Tool Position Relative to OldTool Position
   CTPos=0
   Activatesignal(OUTPUT9)'atc motor revirsing relay
   ActivateSignal(OUTPUT10)'Turns the AC Motor On
    Sleep(50)
    
     For y=0 To CCWPos
           While IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is off
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
MSGBox "Input is off"
           While NOT IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is on
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
MSGBox "Input is on"
            y=y+1
        Next y
   CTPos=y
   DeactivateSignal(OUTPUT9)
   Deactivatesignal(OUTPUT10)'atc motor revirsing relay
End Function
anything is possible, just try to do it.
if you find some mistakes, in my bad bavarian english,they are yours.

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Re: ATC Geneva wheel for mill
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2018, 04:31:48 AM »
sorry seems i going to get bild

Function CW()'Rotation CW
   Dim x As Integer
   Dim CTPos As Integer 'Carrousel Tool Position Relative to OldTool Position
   CTPos=0
   ActivateSignal(OUTPUT9)'Turns the AC Motor On cw

   Sleep(50)

   For x=0 To CWPos
           While IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is off
      Sleep(10)
      Wend
           While NOT IsActive(OEMTrig9)'Wait for OEMTrig9 is on
      Sleep(10)
      Wend

            x=x+1
        Next x
this is wrong,not needed, the for next Loop is counting itselv.
anything is possible, just try to do it.
if you find some mistakes, in my bad bavarian english,they are yours.