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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 07:34:03 AM »

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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 08:16:53 AM »
Windows 10 Pro is $150.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832588491

It doesn't make sense to "upgrade" to an old operating system.
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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 10:47:24 AM »
Windows 10 Pro is $150.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832588491

It doesn't make sense to "upgrade" to an old operating system.

Good point Gerry.

Not being very "savvy", are there any foreseeable issues going with the OEM over the retail version ? Just for a machine controller.

Thanks,
Russ
Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 10:52:39 AM »
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Not being very "savvy", are there any foreseeable issues going with the OEM over the retail version? Just for a machine controller.

Assuming you mean Home versus Professional (you can't buy the OEM version, it only comes with a PC) then see https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/compare for the differences.

Assuming you aren't too paranoid about security i.e. can do without Bitlocker which encrypts the hard drive of the PC and don't need to join a domain, you should be fine with the Home version
Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 11:09:48 AM »
Hi Tom.
No, I mean Win10PRO-OEM compared to 10PRO Retail.

NFS recommends 10Pro.
Thanks for looking,
Russ

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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2018, 11:11:47 AM »
Yes, you can buy an OEM version. I always buy OEM versions, and build my own PC's.

The advantage of the Pro version with Windows 10 is that you can defer automatic updates. Windows 10 Home doesn't allow you to.
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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2018, 11:16:35 AM »
also looks like they now do allow moving the OEM to a different MoBo if necessary. An initial no no .
? if I understand correctly.
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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 11:19:22 AM »
I don't think you can do that with any version? I think if you call them, you can if it's an identical replacement motherboard.

Licenses are tied to the PC, so it''s good for one PC (motherboard).
Fwiw, I haven seen a motherboard fail in about 20 years.
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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 11:26:33 AM »
Yes, you can buy an OEM version. I always buy OEM versions, and build my own PC's.
I stand corrected. It seems Microsoft changed their licensing terms to forbid Joe Public from using OEM licenses beginning with Windows 7 but then reversed the decision beginning with Windows 10.

It also seems they didn't make it very clear that they were changing it which lead to many people continuing to sell OEM licenses of Windows 7.

OEM version means you don't have access to basic Microsoft tech support. The last time I called basic tech support I was halfway through explaining what a printer driver did to the 'expert' on the other end of the call when I realised that I was probably wasting my time and hung up :-)

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Re: Suggested OS
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 11:35:09 AM »
Afaik, you've always been able to buy OEM licenses. My Windows 10 Pro is an upgrade from an OEM copy of Windows 8 that I bought, which doesn't match your theory.

The last time I needed to call Microsoft was when I was using Windows NT 4.
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