I will try that later today ,i have to go out of town till this afternoon and will give that a try as soon as i return ,with out a license does it exclusively just cut out threading or would it cut out the turning wizard , because the turning wizard code will run. I will do it and try to eliminate the possability of a bad file ,i also have the new sensor that is a gear tooth need's no magnet can sense a metal gear tooth , used one on my mill works great from 0 to 10,000 rpm they are used for gear sensing on industrial equipment. I had one other thought while i was sleeping (yes i am dreaming about the stupid thing!!) maybe more than one trigger say four and see what happens?