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Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« on: March 05, 2010, 11:24:45 AM »
I have searched the site to find a similar problem with all the posts concerning this, they are all incomplete, with no real answer..

I have followed the directions from the cnc4pc site. it is an old board but I bought new and just now getting to use it..

pp/millopp/checked the box set to step/dir
pp/motoroutputs/checked spindle set to pin 14 for both pins port 1 (vol/acc I have tried from 500 to 2000 in 500 increments and have the step/dir pulse set to 5)
I did try setting only one pin for step/dir to 14 leaving 0 in the other, and all 4 combos with the dir/low. well back n fourth for 3 hours with different setting here
I have tried almost ever config with dirlow/lowactive

I can get the pin14 on the 5vdc side to work, but not the 0-10vdc????

I have all 3 axis working, plus flood/mist
the charge pump on pin 17/jumped properly(x,y,z will not work with this setting incorrect?)

I am using a baldor smartmotor as my spindle(which at this point doesn't matter because I can't get the required 0-10vdc. on the out of the EPOT)

I have tried many different setting in the pulley setup.....

Anybody got any ideas?

BTW this is not a mill/lathe/router/plasma/laser it is a 3 axis machine with a spindle which has no meaning really just gonna answer now..lol...

HELP PLEASE, I want to final test this soon.... I can run the spindle manually but I have already tested that way...
Hey THANKS 4 all the help in advance. I'll need more than you'll ever expect!!!


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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 12:33:16 PM »
I have searched the site to find a similar problem with all the posts concerning this, they are all incomplete, with no real answer..

I have followed the directions from the cnc4pc site. it is an old board but I bought new and just now getting to use it..


I can get the pin14 on the 5vdc side to work, but not the 0-10vdc????


Anybody got any ideas?


Having followed the instructions you have forgotten to add 12v this is needed to get out 10v

Phil
« Last Edit: March 05, 2010, 12:39:10 PM by Phil_H »
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 12:57:49 PM »
Nope, just figured that everybody would assume I had it.
I do have the following power in there respective places.
5vdc
12vdc
70vdc
110vac
240-3phvac
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 06:56:04 PM »
First thing you do is disconnect the 10v to the VFD

Set the trim pot to the centre position

Set up a pulley, now you are aiming to get 10v out when the VFD is at it's max speed but it must have a minimum speed.

The actual figures don't matter it could be 1000 max 200 min

I have a pic of 100 min 500 max you will never have a zero speed, so if we get 10v at 500 when the speed is set to 100 we should get 2v

You are after a ratio in this instance of 5, 2, 1.

My setup is metric so the figures may be out for you, but it is trial and error and nothing can be damaged

Setup CONFIG/PORTS N PINS/SPINDLE SETUP you need to tick the two boxes

Now go to CONFIG/MOTOR TUNING see my setup pic you can adjust all you want you cannot damage anything, but you are just making up the numbers to get 10v when you have 500 set and 2v when you change to 100 DON'T FORGET TO SAVE THE SETTINGS

When you get as close as you can to the ideal voltage you then use the trim pot to fine tune the voltage

When you get the correct voltage on the output then you can connect it to the VFD to test

Phill



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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »
Ok, I had the spindle set up corect.
My numbers were the recomended ones from cnc4pc
I'll try those numbers, tomorrow and get back. I'll take some screen shots and post'em if it doesn't work.

what about the active low and the other setting? I never understand those, I just try them... Lol!

Hey thanks for your assistance!!! I mean that! I hope to geter wrking right.
Hey THANKS 4 all the help in advance. I'll need more than you'll ever expect!!!


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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 03:25:36 AM »
Are you using a smooth stepper ?

Phil
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2010, 08:42:23 AM »
No.
C11g gecko 340 desktop pc
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 04:08:37 PM »
I tried those settings and NO GO.... I cang the the pin 14 light to light up but no voltage..

Its a new c11g, I have had it in waiting...
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 06:00:35 PM »
Ok attach your xml, you will have to rename it and i wil have a look

Hood says I'm a smart @rse so i may e able to fix it. ;D

Phil
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Re: Trying to get the analog out to work on a c11g
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 06:19:03 PM »
I'll get it tomorrow, the lady says I'm
in for the night... 
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