Well as the saying goes... "if in doubt... chuck it out!" Thats fixed it! cleaned out all the various installs of Mach and Quantum then reloaded 43.022 and reinstalled SS plugin, 10 minutes of reconfigure and boobs yur anty she all works... including output4
Thank you very much for your patience Hood and if you are ever in the newer, more southern version of wales you have a place to crash.
I owe you one.
Cheers
Mark