plus I owe you that pint ( not water) - wasn't thinking it could be the install
saved me some time

Ha ha yes have used Jasons reader since its beta days
Good to hear its working now, not sure if its a corrupt Mach as the install over the top should have done the trick. When you say another machine I presume you mean another computer? If so I suspect there is maybe something in the first one stopping the xml getting written correctly when shutting down Mach.

Afraid I dont drink so you will just have to have that pint yourself

Hood

well not sure its in the xml ok so I suspect your right just going to install an clean image an start again. I have a few Dll might be interfering so I remove the drivers

Let us know the outcome
Hood