ya I ended up just getting another VFD, and from that it works great. I can go reverse now with the commands, only issue is on Mach 4 the spindle default minimum speed says 8000rpm, If i use M3 S1000 or such it wont go below 8000 even clicking the override, goes up no problem.
Everything is properly set to min rpm as 0, is there a setting somewhere I'm missing. This is all to setup the rapid change atc.