Yes I checked all that. After a little more digging I found that I'm not the only one it's happened to and I could not find a fix for the proble.. I guess the only way is to write or edit my M6 macro. I have absolutely no Dea how to do that. If I did I would write one so it worked just like mach3. Touch off somewhere, set z, and hit cycle start and off we go. I'll have to find a work around for now. I have parts to make that can't wait. Not sure why it's not already built into mach4. It works on every machine.