And honestly, $160 is a heck-uv-a deal. I downlaoded the trial was able to get my mill modified and confirm that Mach II was going to work for me/my machine and then bought the license, you can't ask for a better trial offer than that, IMHO. I'm as tight (as in cheap, thrifty) as the next guy but will gladly pay for Mach. They way I look at it the more we support Art and Brian and the guys the better Mach gets for us. Just food for thought.....