Oh and by the way, "don't want to sound like a salesman, but"; it is really fast removing bulk material with the Wizards, then using DeskProto to make the roughing and final finish cuts... DeskProto is really sweet, with one exception, doesn't have a feature to ramp you in for plunging into the material. I have used BobCAM, MasterCAM, and a few others that caused a large learning curve for me, and non is as sweet as DeskProto V5 for finishing in the least amount of time, programing is effortless and flawlessly (So far), (With DeskProto, I was up and running same day, without all the tutorials and all the other BS to go through, it even has wizards to tune in the exact spec's of your machine and post processor), I have inserted a spindle start with a 3 second pause before the program starts, so the spindle can get up to speed before starting to cut (Syil X4) starts the spindle and heads for material all in a split second, before it ever gets up to speed, BAD, BAD, BAD)). DeskProto has a home hobby (Full) version on sale, $1k off right now (US funds). Find any other almost full function CAMware you can get up and running for under $400 bucks and only have a few days learning curve to be confident in you g-code program!