Noticing now that Zen tool and Zenbot are probably different companies! lol so that answers that question so i'm saying i will Get the Zen Toolworks and then grow from there Keeping my little Zen intact! probably upgrading to the 12 x 12 once i wanna do stuff a bit bigger cuz anything bigger than that i can probably rewrite a bit of the G-Code to start the program on my Thermwood like i have done for Lots of Vector works stuff! Now only question is how hard is it to assemble and properly home X, Y, Z axis on the Zen toolworks machine!