Hi Sage,
  Thanks for starting this topic, I'm sorry for jumping in and walking all over
your conversations, I re-read all the posts and I was Rude!! 
  I was just very Excited with the interesting 4th axis talk, so I just shot before I 
thought. My apologies friend. (by the way, I use vcarve pro also, it really is that good!)
  RC,
Thanks man 

 There are no shortcuts. Understood.
 Very good subject and information gentlemen!
 Glenn