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Westamp AC Servo Driver, What motor?
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Westamp AC Servo Driver, What motor?
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July 30, 2011, 09:44:18 AM »
Colleagues
Just recently I purchased an AC servo drive in the intention that I would match a motor to it and use it as the spindle drive motor on my latest project being a lathe conversion. I realise like most things I jump the gun without thinking but the driver was new and at the correct price so how could I pass it up.
From what I have learnt so far I can interface a Pixie card to the driver so it excepts step and direction from Mach, but that's about as much as I have been able to research. My questions are as follows.
What motor can I use with this drive? Or what should I be looking for in a motor?
Is there a better interface than the pixie card?
Or am I simply just peeing in the wind! and trying to use something that is to outdated?
If you go to the link it will show the manual for the driver,
http://www.ormec.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=8hh6gEwtUB4%3D&tabid=168&mid=757
My model is SL30.
I am very new to servo motor's and basically on a crash course, any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Katoh
Incidentally.
Many Thanks to Hood Who has helped me Thus far!
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Re: Westamp AC Servo Driver, What motor?
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July 30, 2011, 10:55:34 AM »
Do you have means to program the personality module when matching an odd ball motor?
Also you will need a motor with hall effect (or simulated H.E.) commutation, if it is for a spindle, the motor will most likely be in the larger Servo range?
Depending on what machine you have it on.
N.
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Re: Westamp AC Servo Driver, What motor?
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July 30, 2011, 07:43:41 PM »
Quote from: NosmoKing on July 30, 2011, 10:55:34 AM
Do you have means to program the personality module when matching an odd ball motor?
No I wouldn't even know were to start looking or who to ask.
As stated I'm new to the Servo game, you could say on a crash course. As far as motor size goes I am looking at the 1.5kw range to drive a spindle on a 11x30 lathe.
I am just about to do a quick google on hall effect, try to understand it better. Maybe I was under the wrong impression that most of these are plug and play.
Thanks
Katoh
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July 30, 2011, 10:36:30 PM »
This shows how the commutation works.
http://users.tinyworld.co.uk/flecc/4-pole-bldc-motor031102.swf
Some drives start off using the halls in the BLDC (Brushless DC) mode and then switch over to AC sinusoidal.
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Katoh
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July 30, 2011, 11:36:41 PM »
That is a really good animation of the halls, I did some research earlier and found a good paper that described the operation of the hall effects in the servo motors. If anything I'm learning new things.
I would contact westamp but I dont think exist any more, well I cant find a website for them. If I could find a contact I would ask them direct what motor they recommend.
cheers
Katoh
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July 31, 2011, 08:26:01 AM »
I contacted Westamp about 10yrs ago, but I think they have since folded or been taken over.
Usually there is software to program the personality module but I don't hold out much hope that it is still around, as it had a limited audience.
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July 31, 2011, 08:47:42 AM »
I sent a message of to Ormec, hopefully they might give me an idea or a starting point. If I can get some sort of an idea which motor will work with it I could go from there. I'm looking at Yaskawa motor at the moment 1.5kw, but trying to find specs on it and relating them back to the drive is becoming quite a task.
Wishful thinking maybe someone will come up and say use ABC-123 motor and such and such an interface and it will all work. I must be dreaming!
The funny thing is I have a VFD and a 3phase motor here ready to go into the lathe, but for some reason I see the servo option as so much better.
Thanks for all your help.
Cheers
Katoh
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July 31, 2011, 08:53:24 AM »
Once you get into BLDC and especially AC sinusoidal, it can often be less headache to source the motor and drive as a matched pair.
The servo option can give you CSF and potentially C axis capability.
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Yes that's exactly what I was thinking, having both c-axis and spindle, will make the machine so much more versatile with so much more scope for expansion.
Quote from: NosmoKing on July 31, 2011, 08:53:24 AM
Once you get into BLDC and especially AC sinusoidal,.
You lost me again there.
Katoh
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BLDC motor is shown in the simulation link, both BLDC and 3ph AC sinusoidal motors are constructed the same way, with a PM rotor and 3 windings on the stator, the difference is in the control, BLDC is often compared to a DC brushed motor turned inside out, hence brushless DC and only two windings are energized at the same time.
AC sinusoidal is true 3 ph, all three winding energised 120deg apart and is generally a smoother motor, especially at very low rpm.
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