I will for sure continue my education with bobcad, I already have it, and I do like it for making small parts, I got pretty good at doing that, but have been struggling with inlay, and it's not that I don't want to ask for help, that's what I'm doing here, it's more that cut2D has an inlay menu which I like, it's more the time it will take to get it right, I don't want to spend another year learning, not that I learn slow, but I don't get a chance to do this as often as I would like and I find myself going backwards to refresh my mind and next thing you know I just spent 3 hours to do something I should be able to do in 5 or 10minutes.