I think ive got one pinned down. Its a cnc router 4 axis for 2drive screws on y axis w gecko,380 motors and buy mach 3 software. its on ebay by cnc conversionkits .

post a link. I looked for this when you posted it, but couldn't find it.

what is the best i can get for mostly metal work ,3axis for aprox. $5000+/-.

Whenever someone asks a question like this, a router would not usually be the correct answer.
And a lot of the routers I've seen on Ebay are less than desirable.

I agree i asked yhe question incorrectly. Apparently i t thought the cnc routers were better than what u guys know them not to be. i have with recommendations changed table size "wants" into more logical sizes. I looked for 3days prior to getting on here cause a guy on ebay sent me here to learn mach 3 and after seeing how bad of a mistake his cnc router would have been to buy,even though i made it clear i was doing aluminum and he assured me itd b fine. Definitly not after knowing more. ill just keep an eye out for some deals and  c c what i can get my hands on.

Again, post the link to the Ebay router.
Without knowing what it is, nobody can tell you if it's any good or not.

Some people say that with a little work, some of the Chinese machines on Ebay are very solid. But they often need the electronics updated, and a thorough inspection and sometimes minor repair or updating. But they can be had for a good price, and make for a solid base. But don't expect a great running machine out of the box.

There really aren't any heavy duty routers that are smaller than 24x36. And at that size, the price will be above your budget. Something like this.
http://www.camaster.com/StingerI.html

Im cant post a link yet, im using my phone to visit site cause wife dropped the laptop and its all boogered up now. im gonna spend a 2 nd looking at stingers that were posted cause i seen a $6500 price tag and i can afford that. but im getting scared of the routers cause experienced people here are saying no to them. ill check these stingers out and get back on here!!!

Wow these camaster routers look pretty impressive. i watched a utube video on it cutting aluminum like butter. Does anybody have an opinion on these? or own one?

Ger21 u may have found my best bet on a cnc that can accuratly and powerful enough to cut aluminum and last along time ,has great reviews,great tech support,and everybody that has one loves it. which i havent seen on mist machines people dont like something about them after they buy them. it may cost me more than i wanted but thats usually how it goes isnt it? Ill prob get the 3-d capability,but most are happy w the router it comes w and its $2000 less than theyre spindle they offer as an upgrade.
if anybody has a machine for me to check out against this one or opinion of this one id like ur help. thank you!

I cant post a link but if u go on ebay this was the bridgeport i was looking at . the item # is 160981482119.  Might be crap for all i know but it looks impressive if u can give me ur thoughts!

The other cnc router that i thought was decent w the 4axis (1being an extra y drive slave) w gecko and decent build is ebay item # 290948692108. I apoligize for not being able to give u direct links. This is the best one ive found until the stinger 1 by camaster. This runs mach3 and overall a nice setup i think.

I also found some nice Hurcos if someone knows how good these are? They look well built.