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HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« on: March 03, 2009, 05:04:16 PM »
I have been happily using Rhinocam V1 and liking it. Ver 2 came out
and I just tried to use it and ended up with problems.

I was making a simple 2.5D part each time I tried to run the program
posted from Rhinocam2 Mach3 either gives me an abnormal warning light
with the cause being displayed as " Exact Stop vs CV Mode" or locks
up. I managed to get the one off part made but didn't like running
with a warning light on.

The warning light comes on when it reaches this line in the program

G81 X0.5000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6 R0.1

I'm pretty rank with both Rhinocam2 and Mach3. Until this they have
been pretty cookbook but....

Anyone have any ideas about this problem???

Jack


« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 10:57:33 AM by freshwatermodels »

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Re: Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 02:47:43 AM »
All that is telling you that is that the programme is changing your control from CV (G64) to Exact Stop mode(G61), nothing to worry about. Drilling cycles are done in Exact Stop usually. Your code should change back to constant velocity with a G64 (Constant Velocity) once the drilling cycle has completed, does it?

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Re: Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 07:21:12 AM »
Hood,

Thanks for your reply!  I think you are correct in that the code doesn't revert to G64 constant velocity.   Maybe I did something wrong in Rhinocam2 or maybe it is just the way the post works.

Here is the code that Rhinocam2 generated:

G00 G49 G40.1 G17 G80 G50 G90
G20
(Standard Drill )
M6 T1
M03 S4583
G00 Z0.1250
X0.5000 Y0.2810
G81 X0.5000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
G81 X2.0000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
(2 1/2 Axis Profiling)
M6 T2
M03 S2000
Z0.0935
X1.5875 Y0.6880
G01 Z-0.1000  F20.0
X1.5833 Y0.7408  F6.0
X1.5710 Y0.7923
X1.5507 Y0.8412
X1.5230 Y0.8864
X1.4886 Y0.9266
X1.4484 Y0.9610
X1.4032 Y0.9887
X1.3543 Y1.0090
X1.3028 Y1.0213
X1.2500 Y1.0255
X1.1972 Y1.0213
X1.1457 Y1.0090
X1.0968 Y0.9887
X1.0516 Y0.9610
X1.0114 Y0.9266

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Re: Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 08:24:50 AM »
Just manually edit to insert a G64 after the drilling cycle has finished then maybe you can edit the PP at a later time to do it for you.
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Re: Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 10:55:33 AM »
Hood,

Nope,  just inserting a G64 does not solve the problem.   I haven't a clue what to do.

Jack

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Re: HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 03:27:53 PM »
So is the problem only that the Abnormal Button Flashes? Where did you add the G64?
Please attach your xml and I will see what happens here. The Abnormal button in my opinion causes more worries than anything else, I got sick fed up of it flashing away with  things like G94/G95 that I didnt add it to my screenset when I made it. Other people like it as it warns them they are not in defaul;t modes.
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Re: HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 03:34:57 PM »
Hi, Jack

The Abnormal Condition flashing doesn't mean there is anything seriously wrong most of the time it's just a warning that your start-up conditions have been changed,

In your example, What set it off is your default (Normal Condition) was set for CV Mode G64, The new code your running has a G81  (Canned Drilling) cycle in it and the G80 isn't canceling it out because it's not in the Pre-Amble code issued by your Rinocam Post at the beginning of your G-code.

You'll find allot of inconsistency's in most all post processor programs out there. All this stuff is confusing in the beginning and I'm not sure weather it ever get's any better over time.

Try this G-code:

G00 G49 G40.1 G17 G80 G50 G90
G20 G64 ;"G64" Need's to be added in your Rinocam/cad Post

(Standard Drill )
M6 T1
M03 S4583
G00 Z0.1250
X0.5000 Y0.2810
G81 X0.5000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
G81 X2.0000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
(2 1/2 Axis Profiling)
M6 T2
M03 S2000
Z0.0935
X1.5875 Y0.6880
G01 Z-0.1000  F20.0
X1.5833 Y0.7408  F6.0
X1.5710 Y0.7923
X1.5507 Y0.8412
X1.5230 Y0.8864
X1.4886 Y0.9266
X1.4484 Y0.9610
X1.4032 Y0.9887
X1.3543 Y1.0090
X1.3028 Y1.0213
X1.2500 Y1.0255
X1.1972 Y1.0213
X1.1457 Y1.0090
X1.0968 Y0.9887
X1.0516 Y0.9610
X1.0114 Y0.9266

G0 Z0
G0 X0 Y0
M30
%

Edit: You could put this in Mach3 General Configuration, Initialization String  "G64" Also.

If you Double Click on the Abnormal Condition button you can re-set it to Normal, It causes more trouble than it's worth anyway.

Thanks, Chip
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 04:02:01 PM by Chip »
Re: HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »
Chip,

I edited the post by adding ther G64 as you said and got the following code which still sets off the abnormal light.   Maybe I'm doing something wrong?


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N1 G40 G49 G80 G98
;Standard Drill
N2 G20 G90
N3 S4583 M03
N4 G00 Z0.125
N5 X2. Y0.281
N6 G81 X2. Y0.281 Z-0.6722 R0.1 F4.
N7 G80
N8 G00 Z0.125
N9 G81 X0.5 Y0.281 Z-0.6722 R0.1 F4.
N10 G80
N11 G00 Z0.125
;2 1/2 Axis Pocketing
N12 M00
N13 G20
N14 S4583 M03
N15 G90 X1.2737 Y0.7375
N16 Z0.125
N17 G01 Z0.0292 F10.
N18 Z0.0042 F6.
N19 X1.2723 Y0.7383 Z0.0039 F4.
N20 X1.2656 Y0.7407 Z0.0026
N21 X1.2588 Y0.7423 Z0.0014
N22 X1.2518 Y0.743 Z0.0001
N23 X1.2447 Y0.7427 Z-0.0011
N24 X1.2378 Y0.7416 Z-0.0023
N25 X1.231 Y0.7396 Z-0.0036

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Re: HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 04:25:26 PM »
Hi, Jack

I don't see it in the G-code you Posted, Should be at the top of your code.

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N1 G40 G49 G80 G98 G64 ; hear--------------------------
;Standard Drill
N2 G20 G90 G64 ; Or Hear----------------------------------
N3 S4583 M03
N4 G00 Z0.125
N5 X2. Y0.281
N6 G81 X2. Y0.281 Z-0.6722 R0.1 F4.
N7 G80
N8 G00 Z0.125
N9 G81 X0.5 Y0.281 Z-0.6722 R0.1 F4.
N10 G80
N11 G00 Z0.125

Chip

Re: HELP!!!! Please abnormal condition Mach3 - Rhinocam2 PROBLEM
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 06:00:39 PM »
How does this look?   Still abnormal condition.

G00 G49 G40.1 G17 G80 G50 G90G64
G20
(Standard Drill )
M6 T1
M03 S4583
G00 Z0.1250
X2.0000 Y0.2810
G81 X2.0000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6722 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
G81 X0.5000 Y0.2810 Z-0.6722 R0.1
G80
G00 Z0.1250
(2 1/2 Axis Pocketing)
M6 T2
M03 S4583
X1.2737 Y0.7375
G01 Z0.0292  F10.0
Z0.0042  F6.0
X1.2723 Y0.7383 Z0.0039  F4.0
X1.2656 Y0.7407 Z0.0026
X1.2588 Y0.7423 Z0.0014
X1.2518 Y0.7430 Z0.0001
X1.2447 Y0.7427 Z-0.0011
X1.2378 Y0.7416 Z-0.0023
X1.2310 Y0.7396 Z-0.0036
X1.2246 Y0.7368 Z-0.0048
X1.2185 Y0.7331 Z-0.0061
X1.2130 Y0.7287 Z-0.0073
X