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Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« on: July 19, 2025, 11:04:23 AM »
I am running Mach4 4.2.0.4300 Build 4300 and Pokeys 57E 8.38.0.3630 on a mini lathe with an old Win 7 PC. The control and motion device parameters are the same as years ago. I checked against a doc I had made.

My X tool offset kept changing. I finally noticed that the Y stepper was jerking / not turning smoothly on a facing cut. It used to work fine. But that was quite a while ago as the machine was gathering dust. I pulled the belt and observed the stepper by itself. Still jerking on a simulated facing cut. I swapped X and Z cable on the outputs of the CNC4PC box. Now the Z was jerking. Both motors are config'd Velocity 70 Units/Min and Acceleration 20 Units^2.

My question, where would the collective wisdom of the group suggest I look next. Hardware like swapping drivers in the CNC4PC box, or messing with software, possible upgrading the Win 7 machine. I was thinking of upgrading the Win 7 hardware and Mach software anyway. I would like to not introduce too many variables.

I had tried upgrading to the latest Mach4 and encountered problems. I re-imaged the PC with a good know backup  to get back to where I was. An issue developed with path errors. See attached. The path and file is there. So I am scratching my head. IF I say OK and dismiss. System will run the Gcode. But I get the "missing steps on X, but not Z. If there was a big problem, I'd expect both X and Z not to work.

Thanks,

Dale

Re: Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2025, 11:36:44 PM »
Hi,
I very much doubt that its a problem with your PC or Mach. The fact that you transfer the cable and the fault follows the cable suggests that the stepper driver is faulty.

Whatever you do.......don't do a scatter gun approach, it seldom works and more often than not you introduce a second problem and that becomes very VERY much harder
to diagnose. Try swapping the stepper drivers between axes. If the fault follows the driver, then the driver is faulty.

Craig
'I enjoy sex at 73.....I live at 71 so its not too far to walk.'
Re: Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2025, 01:05:04 PM »
I swapped data cable inputs to the X and Z motor drivers. Problem was on Z.
Re: Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2025, 09:06:16 PM »
Hi,
you say the data cable?

Have you trued swapping the stepper drive. I rather suspect the fault is the stepper drive rather than mach or the PC, but you need a test
to confirm that. I'm not sure that swapping the data cable adoes that.

Craig
'I enjoy sex at 73.....I live at 71 so its not too far to walk.'
Re: Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2025, 08:38:57 PM »
Thanks Craig - you made me think.

I restored a backup to this Win 7 machine from several years ago when it used to work. Still had erratic X drive behavior. I physically swapped the motor drives. Problem stayed on X. Arturo with CNC4PC suggested I use a different axis. Since this is a lathe, I configured Y, Motor 1, to the X axis. Still had the problem. Interestingly, jogging is smooth. Only when I run my Gcode do I have jerky operation. So I abandoned my Gcode and used the canned facing program included with Mach. Xi @ 0.5, Xf at 0. Zi at 0, Zf at -0.1. Posted to Mach4, jerky X operation still there. Power Supply???

As background, used to work several years ago. Mach4 4.2.0.4300. Pokeys version, I don't know anymore.

Thanks,

Dale
Re: Y axis stepper not smooth / missing steps?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2025, 03:22:21 PM »

I believe I have a working system. There are some config tweaks that need to be addressed. Spindle speed input is not working. I'll look at my old config.

Installed Mach4 version 4.2.0.5036 on a re-imaged 8 year old win 10 laptop. Abounded my old slow Win 7 desktop
Installed M4_M16D_LATHE Beta_V2.0.0.0.zip

Dale