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Bad News?
« on: November 14, 2025, 07:41:31 AM »
I was hunting around on the ftp server and found a MachPro directory in the mix. I downloaded and installed the program. Attempted to start it with some errors's. No Motion and a missing wxmach.set file. I renamed an old mcIndustrial.set to wxmach.set and restarted. This time it worked and I was in machpro.  Tried the same thing with my ESS plugin and MachPro will not recognize it at all. As well, my license file is considered invalid..  I wonder if this is how ArtSoft will roll now. New program, same problems with features that should work but give error's and that'll be another $200 for a license.

Frankly for me, this would be the end of Mach and I'd look at some other option. I purchased Mach3 originally and upgraded to Mach4 as an early adopter. So early that Industrial was a carrot given at the time. I have ALOT of hardware for mach3/4. In fact I just recieved another C25xp from CNC4PC with ESS yesterday in the mail.  Recently I recieved an "offer" to upgrade to some companies hardware for relatively cheap since they had purchased ArtSoft and wanted to provide me with an opportunity to "upgrade". There's very little information about what is going on and no clear statement. How about it Steve or Brian(does he still work there?) can we have some information about what is going on, what the options are.
Re: Bad News?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2025, 03:06:17 PM »
If you are downloading stuff from the FTP area for DevelopmentVersions you should not expect these to be software that is in ready to run condition. This is an area for experimental stuff. It could be almost usable, or just chunks of code along the evolutionary path.

Artsoft, the associated Mach3, Mach4, and the MachSupport web site etc. were purchased by the folks at MachMotion. They have worked behind the scenes to help develop Mach4 and test it for many years. For now the MachSupport.com web site continues to be the presence for interacting with Mach software sales and support. I would not jump to conclusions about their plans going forward. Development does continue and Stephen is still involved. Brian has a new separate life doing integration of automation systems, often employing Mach software as the engine.

Steve Stallings (not the Stephen who writes Mach4 software)
PMDX
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Re: Bad News?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2025, 05:17:38 PM »
MachPro is VERY much in super duper uber beta phase.  VERY experimental, if you can even call it that.  In the end, MachPro will look nothing like what you have downloaded.  We have gone away from putting a numeral in the name and it will simply be called Mach or MachPro.  What you downloaded was the result of taking the 4 out of all of the exe names and source code with absolutely ZERO testing on my end.  The initial side effects of removing said "4" are;  Mach 4 licenses do not work.  I took the 4 out of Mach4Lic.dat filename and the core isn't even looking for it.  Plus any references to "Mach 4" in the license itself have been removed.  So even if you renamed a Mach4Lic.dat file, the checksums will fail.  All of the code is now signed with a Microsoft code signing certificate which caused all of the checksums on the plugins to change so a Mach 4 plugin will fail checking the checksum and it will not load or register. 

I setup the MachPro directory for the future and just filled it with the last few builds I made while making the naming changes.  I put those installers in there JUST to test the code signing.  Had I known it would cause any consternation, I would not have put that directory up there, much less anything in it.  So I'm taking it down in order to not cause anymore confusion. 

As it sits now, MachPro is a long way off.  I'm sure there will be product rollout information when it gets a LOT closer to reality.  But that is not my department so it won't be coming from me.  As for how things sit at the moment, I'm still the Mach 4 (and future MachPro) programmer.  And I work on Mach 4 every day. 

Steve
Re: Bad News?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2025, 05:49:49 PM »
Thank you for the information. I appreciate it. It was kinda concerning especially with how little is being posted in the groups.im not just talking about machsupport forums. Warp9td cnczone are the same