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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: CNC CONVERSION - 6" ATLAS LATHE
« on: September 25, 2009, 08:58:04 AM »
Reading it again, I am not sure myself what I typed there :D

Wanted to ask how much money have you spent on it so far?

Daniel

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Art,

Just tried it with my Emco F1. I put a round bar on the table to "monitor" the jerk. Played with the jerk number from 1 up to 100,000 and was jogging the table from side to side. There was no difference at all that I could tell of. Looked the same with any jerk value, as well as with the normal Mach3 mode.

I guess this information doesn't help you much.

Daniel

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: CNC CONVERSION - 6" ATLAS LATHE
« on: September 25, 2009, 08:13:48 AM »
Rich,

Obviously looks like you achieved your main goal. Well done!

Like you said, it's a lot easier when you know exactly what you want.

May I ask, how much money did it turn to you?

Daniel

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: CNC CONVERSION - 6" ATLAS LATHE
« on: September 25, 2009, 01:19:41 AM »
Ha..ha... What a difference to a Sherline ;) 

What's the practical backlash you've got?

Daniel

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: Ballscrews - Ground or Rolled?
« on: September 24, 2009, 01:03:39 PM »
You're already beyond $7K???? Anyway it looks really much for me... ;)

Daniel

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: Ballscrews - Ground or Rolled?
« on: September 23, 2009, 02:13:40 PM »

Thanks for the info Dan13, I didn't know about backlash concerns for larger diameter rolled ballscrews.  I think I will need a larger diameter so ground is probably better.  I notice that lower grades are better too, so from one site they are C7 and cheaper, but the other site is C5 which is more expensive.  That site does do the machining for me though, so maybe the higher price will even out over all.


The info is a common info and has to be confirmed with the particular ball screw manufacturer. My note about backlash is true for single nut with normal backlash or reduced backlash (preloaded). The trend now is to use a single preloaded nuts. The manufacturers are trying to avoid using double nut preloaded systems these days, as it's expensive and can only be supplied as a screw-nut preloaded and adjusted assembly.

Even if you need bigger diameter ball screws, I am not sure you have to go for ground ones, as we are talking of very small backlash rates for single nut. For a 40mm diameter ball screw the backlash (of single preloaded nut) would be 0.02mm. The standard backlash (no preload) would be about 0.04mm. I think these values can well suite your requirements, since you're speaking of C7 precision grade, which I think is about 0.05mm/300mm.

I think you can still adjust those nuts for ZERO backlash, but I believe the manufacturers wouldn't recommend doing this. Again, you need to check against the particular manufacturer regarding the particular product. As always, they can get you anything, depending on how much you're willing to pay.

Daniel

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: Ballscrews - Ground or Rolled?
« on: September 23, 2009, 11:01:30 AM »
Today, with the new technology and manufacturing processes, the precision of a rolled screw doesn't differ much from the precision of a ground screw. Several years ago this was not the case, if one wanted a precision ball screw, the only choice was a ground ball screw.

Today, many manufacturers offer precision rolled ball screws that don't fall much from their ground analogues, for much cheaper costs. However, it seems that as the screw diameter increases it becomes harder to maintain the high precisions of a rolled screw, so for bigger screws and sufficient precision you might need to go for ground screws. Another thing with bigger diameter precision rolled screws is the backlash being higher as the diameter increases. For precision rolled ball screws smaller than 12mm diameter, the practical backlash declared by the manufacturer can be as small as ZERO.

Precision rolled ball screw are available with precisions better than 0.023mm/300mm.

Daniel

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Current list of G & M Codes for Lathe
« on: September 23, 2009, 08:10:48 AM »
Was typing when you posted your reply ;)

Daniel

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Current list of G & M Codes for Lathe
« on: September 23, 2009, 08:09:01 AM »
Hood,

Ok, they ARE mentioned in the manual, but not under the section you'd expect them to be. They are not in the list (like you you noted) or the gcode section, and only mentioned on page 6-2.

Daniel

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Current list of G & M Codes for Lathe
« on: September 23, 2009, 07:57:51 AM »
As Daniel previously mentioned the only one I can think of that is not in the manual is G48S**** which is used to limit the spindle speed when in CSS.

Hood

Along with G96 and G97.

I think there were couple of other codes also, but can't remember now.

Daniel