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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 29, 2021, 07:14:34 AM »
Diodes inbound then, going to have to rework my PCB layout to include space for the flyback diodes.

Thanks for catching that, electricity isn't my first language so I tend to miss things.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 29, 2021, 06:27:28 AM »
Huh, I need to read a bit more.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 28, 2021, 09:13:55 PM »
Board plan is done, 2 sided PCB. Red is top, blue is bottom.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 28, 2021, 03:55:54 PM »
The TLP222AF can handle AC or DC. The 60 volt rating is more than enough for a 24V circuit. I would keep the current under 200 mA to keep the heat down. 200 mA is not a limiting factor as the coil current of a small signal relay is usually under 50 mA.
They are packaged in a 4 pin DIP like the typical opto coupler and cost only a bit more, $1.09 from Digi-Key.

I mean the optocouplers are a lot less than that over on mouser (ref: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/852-PC817X3NSZ9F), I'm getting all my board components there since it's more coinvent and much cheaper.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 28, 2021, 07:48:56 AM »
The MOSFET SSRs can handle more current and voltage than the typical optocoupler and eliminate the need for an intermediate driver. For low power they're equivalent to a relay contact.
If your circuit didn't use both an NO and NC contact they could have replaced the relays too.
Ah, that makes sense. I wanted the relays to swing both ways for future expansion purposes too.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 27, 2021, 06:57:31 PM »
Here is a simpler version of the output.
These MOSFET solid state relays can drive your relays directly. Max rating is 60V, 500mA although I would only use them at about half that. By the way, they can also switch AC.
There is a resistor in series with the inputs to set the current.
Indicator LEDs run on 24 VDC as do the relays. I drew them as 24 VDC since that's the supply in your diagram. The circuit could be used for 12 VDC if you prefer.
Diodes across the relays to catch the turn off spike that might harm the MOSFETS.

I've kind of sold myself on the optocouplers and got parts on order now.
Is there a reason to prefer MOSFETS over optocouplers?

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Planned expansion board
« on: March 26, 2021, 09:42:05 AM »
Big thoughts that I vaguely understand and had to read up on a bit to figure out.

So firstly, and I mean this, thanks. Read and thought a bit to make sure I was following your words as I didn't quite catch it initially. Any time I learn something new is a good time.

I was thinking the system does need galvanic isolation as my 5v ground is from a different supply than my 24v ground.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Planned expansion board
« on: March 26, 2021, 08:07:03 AM »
I'm aiming to simplify the I/O setup for the machine, anyone see any issues with my planned I/O board? Pneumatics are all run off 24v switches and the board can only output 5v, hence the relays.

Does anyone see any mistakes or issues?


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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: NAMUR Sensors, how to wire?
« on: March 26, 2021, 07:12:26 AM »
For anyone curious I decided to scrap the NAMUR sensors for the all the axis of travel and replace them with some cheap PNP proximity sensors from automation direct.
The spindle sensor now has a converter to read the NAMUR sensor on board. It seems that there was still a converter in the cabinet that I missed. Granted, it's only good for the speed sensor, but that will be enough.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: NAMUR Sensors, how to wire?
« on: March 18, 2021, 11:53:42 AM »
I still have the OEM brain box and the spindle is brand spankin new to the tune of $14k. I ain't going to pop it open to plug an NPN or PNP sensor in the spindle. Would it be worth digging into the old controller to see what was reading the NAMUR sensors and if I can dig it out?
I'm lucky that I still have the OEM wiring diagrams for the machine, so if I just need to play follow the wire traces I can burn the time and do so.

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