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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Show and tell videos.
« on: November 22, 2020, 04:53:17 PM »
I have a few of my G0704 CNC,. So I thought I'd post up a few links.

A knife sharpener I designed and built:

The first couple parts.
https://youtu.be/thW4mNH1tMw

A few more
https://youtu.be/0a5Pp1vaUZc

Making more parts.
https://youtu.be/p4QuGDOv8uQ

https://youtu.be/7md0JE_MUxM

https://youtu.be/Hhha0NrCU_k

https://youtu.be/RNSuBW-Dbtc

Touching off Z for engraving
https://youtu.be/L7b8nRSk1pE

Engraving
https://youtu.be/dAFyQ1GSmXQ

More engraving
https://youtu.be/mhaRAXxUp7w

Assembled gadget
https://youtu.be/V80Aga3u-Ww

Testing gadget
https://youtu.be/_x72nSApWl8

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General Mach Discussion / PWM vs Analog output for spindle control?
« on: November 22, 2020, 04:13:26 PM »
I have a G0704 cnc that I built about 8 years ago.  It uses mach3, an ethernet smooth stepper and a C11g  breakout board.

For the spindle I'm using a 1.5hp bldc motor and a GlockCNC 1200 watt 1200WBD driver. The speed is controlled via the C11g breakout boards onboard 0-10v Analog converter, connected to the 1200WBDs Analog input terminals.  The breakout board converts PWM into a 0-10v Analog signal.

My spindle works well enough,  but either the Analog converters output isn't very linear, or the 1200WBD driver doesn't convert the voltage to RPM in a linear manner. 

I can easily tune the spindle speed to match the mach3 commanded speed using the C11g onboard potentiometer,. But it only ever matches @ that specific speed.  For example, if I enter 4000rpm into mach3, and adjust the potentiometer untill I have 4000 RPM at the spindle, entering 3000rpm in mach3 will get me about 2700rpm at the spindle.  The closer I get to 4000, the better they match.  Above 4000, they will start to diverge again.    This same non-linearity manifests no matter which RPM I use as the base for tuning.

My 1200WBD can also accept a 5v 1khz-2khz PWM signal to control the speed via PWM duty cycle.

My question is:. If bypass the 0-10v converter, and feed the PWM signal directly to the 1200BWD driver and use PWM duty cycle to control the speed, would I get better linearity?   

It's not difficult to bump the commanded RPM up/down untill the tachometer is where I want,. But it would be nice if I didn't have to do that.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Mach 4 demo?
« on: January 17, 2019, 10:55:51 PM »
I tried searching, but can't find the answers to my question in previous threads.

Ive been using Mach3 for years, and have been considering getting a Mach 4 license. I prefer the look of the Mach 4 gui, it seems a better fit for my mill and Warp 9 seems yo put more effort into the Mach 4 plugin.

I downloaded Mach 4 to try in demo mode, but absolutely nothing works.

The software installed fine, and starts fine, but all i can do is browse the various screens.

It doesng seem to recognize my smoothsteppers existence, i cant access the ess plugin, it won't run g-code.  Basically, all i can do is see what the gui looks like.

Am i doing something wrong? Im definitely not paying $200 for the license until im certain it will run on my machines integral pc motherboard and cnc hardware.

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SmoothStepper USB / Smoothstepper USS worth it?
« on: January 08, 2019, 12:34:05 PM »
I've been wanting to start using a smoothstepper so that I can run windows 7 64 bit on my CNC machine but have some concerns about the features I may be losing if I make the switch from parallel port to Smoothstepper.

First, i'm limited to the USB version.  My CNC hardware and PC hardware, all breakout boards, pc motherboards, stepper drivers, power supplies etc are all mounted in the same mining-rig enclosure, which is mounted to the side of the CNC enclosure.  The breakout board connects to the PC motherboard via headers, and the smoothstepper would also be mounted inside the enclosure and necessarily connect to the motherboards onboard USB3.0 header.  The pc motherboard doesn't have an Ethernet header, only the plug on the rear I/O panel. 

 I'm OCD about wiring neatness, having an Ethernet smoothstepper would mean a hole drilled into the enclosure, and a wire hanging out of the hole so it could be plugged into the back of the motherboard.  Such a thing would be like having a penis growing out of my forehead. It's mere existence would be intolerable, like a snake loose in the house, I couldn't stop thinking about it until it was gone.


My biggest concern is the features I might lose switching to the smoothstepper. 

First, closed loop PID control of the spindle motor.  I've read online that USS smoothstepper in Mach3 can't do closed loop PID, or somehow, eliminates Mach3s ability to control the spindle closed loop.  Currently, my 1.1kw bldc motor, in combonation with Mach3 in closed loop PID operation holds + or - 10 rpm, even when entering and exiting cuts.  I really don't want to lose this.

Also, i've read that I will lose backlash compensation.  This isn't as big of a deal as my ballscrews have almost no backlash but I do occasionally, rightly or wrongly, use it to hit a tolerance when it's is a couple thousandths undersize or oversize.

The ability to use speed override in the positive direction. I've read that the smoothstepper won't allow feed override to increase the feed speed.

Also, I keep reading about weird reliability issues, such as losing communication between mach3 and the smoothstepper,  the smoothstepper running out of data, etc.

Are my concerns realistic? Is there a way to actually control the spindle closed loop, use the feed override and backlash compensation with the smoothstepper?

How does it cause these issues? does the smoothstepper override, ignore or otherwise not communicate some of the Mach 3 to breakout board communications?  For example, if Mach 3 is sensing rpm via the index signal, and modulating the pwm pulsewidth to adjust RPM, does the smoothstepper not communicate these instructions to the breakout board, or does the smoothstepper somehow prevent these calculations from taking place at all?

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I few weeks ago a car crashwd into a power pole, a few blocks away.

The resulting power surge blew out my G0704 conversions C10 breakout board, C6 spindle board and the KB125 board driving my spindle motor.  Otherwise the machine has been running like a champ since 2014.

I have surge protectors installed now

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