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General Mach Discussion / Spindle setup problems
« on: November 28, 2014, 02:11:19 PM »
I have encountered a problem incorporating a SP4DC spindle control card into my cnc lathe project.

equipment used
SP4DC spindle controller    manual  http://www.diycnc.co.uk/spindleV4.pdf  
Breakout board UIM2901-5a  manual   http://www.robocutters.co.uk/uim2901.pdf  
Stepper drive Leadshine AM882    manual  http://www.leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/AM882m.pdf  )

I chose this bob initially as I thought it would control my lathe spindle. Unfortunately upon closer inspection I noticed that it only had one relay so it could only do fwd/stop and I require both forward and reverse. Hence the need for the SP4DC board. I have wired it as shown in the attached file



The good news is I can get both the spindle and the stepper motors to work independently. The problem is I can't get the steppers to work when the spindle board is connected. I am not sure if the conflict is to do with the software settings or the wiring. From the bob manual (although there are some typos)

The A Axis pins are    STEP  9    DIR   8   ENA  14

The spindle motor settings I have used  are     Output #1 (ccw)  8        Output # 2  (cw)   14    and   Enable    14

which means there are two outputs using pin 14   !!!!!

When wired as shown and the enable is activated the voltage at  ENA is only   3v   and the AM882 drive requires   3.5v
(when the drive has the correct enable voltage the power light flashes)

Question 1   My electrical knowledge is very  limited. Can anyone see any wiring or setup errors here?

When this didn't work my conclusion was that it did not like two outputs on the same pin. So I thought of using pin 1 to control the run signal but this also proved to be unsuccessful. Mainly I think due to my lack of electrical knowledge. Pin 1 has two connectors P1E and P1C  . My assumed layout is shown on the sketch. (I am also assuming that the 5v supply for P1C is provided internally on the bob) so all I do is connect run to P1C and GND  to P1E.

I have shorted the two right hand pins of both JP7/JP8 to disable PWM output and hence enable  the terminals  P1c and P1E

I have tried to control this output using  Output  #2  (cw)    enabled      port 1        pin 1      active high

but am showing no voltage across terminals when I try to start spindle.

Question 2    Can anyone make any sense of my wiring or logic on how to control the run signal using Pin 1

Any help would be greatly appreciated

cheers George


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General Mach Discussion / Re: power supply tolerance
« on: March 07, 2012, 06:44:44 AM »
can someone tell me

is a linear power supply the same as a regulated power supply

cheers G

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General Mach Discussion / Re: power supply tolerance
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:38:02 PM »
Ok many thanks for the help

George

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General Mach Discussion / Re: power supply tolerance
« on: March 06, 2012, 11:43:37 AM »
Hi Hood

no I was just testing across terminals?

the power outputs are

+12v @ 12A
-12v  @ 2A
+24v  @ 3A
+50v  @ 10A
+5v   @ 3A

what would you recommend for a load to test?

(sorry for basic question but not electrical)

cheers  G

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General Mach Discussion / power supply tolerance
« on: March 06, 2012, 10:25:00 AM »
just bought a second hand multi output power supply from ebay

but there is quite a bit of difference between req'd output and

actual measured

req'd voltage (dc)   actual measured voltage (dc)

+12v                     +14.06v
+12v                     +13.79v
+24v                     +27.8v
+50v                     +48.5v
-12v                       -13.7v
+5v                       +5.2v

will this level of overvoltage damage breakout boards etc?

what is the normal tolerance on power supplies

cheers George

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General Mach Discussion / lathe spindle control pwm or step/dir ?
« on: June 09, 2011, 12:17:15 PM »
I am currently in the early planning stages of small lathe conversion

I am looking to use 1.5kw (3ph) motor controlled by VFD

possibly a IMO Jaguar VXR inverter (1ph input)

When using mach is there preference to the type of

motor control ie either pwm or step/dir I should aim for ?

I am pretty green at this so I am trying to get everything

clear in my head first before I part with cash.

Cheers George

 

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 8 position lathe toolchanger
« on: June 01, 2011, 11:31:01 AM »
Hi TP

Was looking to change to stepper motor as I don't think I have the electrical ability to work out dc motor drive control.

Stepper approach seems more achievable (for me)

However if anyone out the has already integrated an Emcoturn 120 turret I would love to hear from them.

I'm all in favour of saving some money

Cheers George

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 8 position lathe toolchanger
« on: June 01, 2011, 08:40:36 AM »
thanks Tweakie thats exactly what I was looking for.

now the learning curve begins

cheers george

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General Mach Discussion / 8 position lathe toolchanger
« on: June 01, 2011, 06:12:48 AM »
Hi all

I am in the early stage of converting  an Emcoturn 120
to Mach control and at the moment I am looking at the toolchanger
it appears to be a really well made bit of kit (see photos)

It is a pawl design with a spring loaded pin used for location
meaning it can only rotate in one direction ( although the manual I
have says it can move either direction but I cant see any method for
retracting pin so I think it may be for a later version unless someone
out there can put me right) The turret position is controlled by 4 sensors
and cutaway vane which produces 4 output signals shown in the table.
Movement is via a small dc motor controlled by an emco board.

It is my intention to change the dc motor with a stepper and have a fast
rotate followed by a slow reversed rotate to lock pin as I have seen a
macro on the forum to tackle this type of setup. I have also seen another
macro setup to handle pin position input. (with if possible including the
option of a manual selector or rotate switch)

I have some user experience of mach3 mill but none of mach3 turn
and this if my first venture into the nuts and bolts of system setup.

I would like to be able to either modify existing programs or write
new to suit but dont have any knowledge of vb script .Can anyone
out there tell where I can find list of commands and construction rules
or recommend a book. As this is a skill I would love to master.

Also I am  a bit lost at the moment on how to convert the sensor
output results (see table) so mach knows that for example
1011 is position 5

any help would be greatly appreciated

cheers George

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Spindle drive specification
« on: March 20, 2011, 04:15:30 PM »
Hi Hood

thanks for that

before I dismiss it totally I will contact siemens directly to see what they would recommend to control it. if anything

will post reply

Cheers George

PS   yes UK

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