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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 15, 2016, 10:35:13 AM »

the x and y axis  conversion kit is ready to mount.

i hope, it works...

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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 08, 2016, 12:14:04 PM »

hdt belts, 8 pitch, 25mm wide

22  tooth pulley on the servo side and 44 or 32 (y axis, no more space) tooth on the spindle side.

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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 08, 2016, 08:22:05 AM »

But than you lose the precision ? yes


Or I'm mistaken ? . h.


Now i would like to know can you remove the back slash just between the servo driver and servo motor ? And than use the linear scales for feadback to the csmio?
i use the linear scales with csmio.
the servo amp use the servo encoder signal (internal), but i can connect the csmio input to the servo amp encoder simulation output.

i receive next week 2 ball screw spindles for x and y axis and than i remove the gears and change to belts.

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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 07, 2016, 12:46:32 PM »

 Is  the motor constantly correcting the position?

no, that isn´t a problem.  this is  normal with linear scales on modern milling machines.

the problem is the precise and quick  positioning with linear scales and spindle clearance.

i think, it would works better with encoders and spindle clearance.

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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 03, 2016, 03:19:27 AM »

i changed the amps and the servos from callan type DC motors to modern servos, because i can´t find  amps with +- 10v input, 120v DC and 90A peak for the callan type motor..
used servos about 200€ and amps about 250€ on ebay.

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CS-Lab / Re: Motor tunning with CSMIO/IP-A (PID) Trouble with encoders

« on: October 02, 2016, 12:49:37 PM »

i have a similar mikron WF3 DP with csmio-A,  linear scales, heidenhain EXE602 converters and kollmorgen servos (AKM42 for xy and AKM44 for z) with kollmorgen 603 servo amps and i have similar  problems with the pid tuning. my machine was an older version with 3 dc motors and one amp.
use your machine trapezoidal spindles and gears between spindle and servo or is it a newer version with ball screw spindles?
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,33125.0.html

i think, i change the spindles to an ball screw type an belts.

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: MIKRON WF3 RETROFIT

« on: October 01, 2016, 10:59:44 AM »

the tool clamping works now with a simple brain.
 


i can´t find a M3 button in the software ....how can i turn the spindle on with an external button?
with a "send string to plc" command in brain?

and can i use the csmio-ip  i/o`s direct with brain commands?

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: MIKRON WF3 RETROFIT

« on: September 29, 2016, 12:17:38 AM »

how can i activate (easy) a solenoid with a (digital) input button (IO modul) and an digital output (csmio-a unit)?

with a vb script or with brain or easy in the mach menu?


i want also activate the toolchanger solenoid (output CSMIO-A unit)  with a button (connected to the  io modul ) after the m6 command.

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIOIP-A with linear scales....settings

« on: September 29, 2016, 12:09:53 AM »

now it runs..

G0 Y+1 is 1mm on the dial gauge.

the servo positoning isn`t perfekt with the old trapezoidal spindle, but it runs.

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIOIP-A with linear scales....settings

« on: September 28, 2016, 05:13:10 AM »

there are 500 pluses per mm on the scales (5µm). testet with  dial gauge and  hand wheel.


i mailed with cs labs, and the setting in the index frame is only for the indexing. i was thinking, the setting in the index menu is important for the pid tuning/servo drive..


the only one setting for scales is in the mach motor tuning and setup menu.

i reversed the scales in den the cs labs menu,  but i think, i can`t reverse the servo in the mach3 settings, so i reverse today the analog servoe input for PID tuning.