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General Mach Discussion / Re: newbe with 4th axis problem
« on: July 23, 2016, 02:27:17 AM »
I am confused... what is your microstep resolution setting for your stepper drive?

200 * 6 * microstep setting= number of steps per revolution.

Divide this by 360, if you want the steps per degree.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: newbe with 4th axis problem
« on: July 23, 2016, 02:17:26 AM »
Set rotary on the general configuration tab

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General Mach Discussion / Re: OEM trigger quantity
« on: July 19, 2016, 01:49:33 PM »
With the smooth stepper you will need to enable ports 2 and 3 as inputs, within the plugin config, ess configuration settings too.

If after all that you don't have enough inputs... you can add a Pokeys too....

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General Mach Discussion / Re: ArcOK signal purpose please!!
« on: July 19, 2016, 04:53:11 AM »
With the proma 150 thc, the arcOK signal provides a slightly different function.... within the software setup of the proma, you set the voltage that the arc Ok signal changes state... the intended function is the same, but not quite"arc transfer", ie transfer from HF arc to cutting arc, so if you set the voltage within the proma too low, or close to the cutting arc, motion may not begin until the voltage drops below this set "thc Ok" voltage.

The problem that I expect is being experianced is because your setup is wrong and the torch is crashing into the plate, the proma stopped sending the THCUp signal, until the THCOK signal is restored, and because the cutting voltage has gone so low, it has to wait for it to rise before initiating the THCUp signal after the THCOK signal is restored.

Solution.... wire up the thc the way it is intended to operate, with the THCOK back to the c11, along with the THCUp and THCDn signals.   Make sure the settings inside the proma 150 are correct for your setup.  And then tune your machine so that the thc responds correctly and quickly enough that the torch is not crashing into the material.

If you can afford a hyperthem 125, I cannot see why you are using such a low cost torch height controller, if I were you, I would look for something better (by which I mean faster, as the proma uses relays inside of it), and with closer control (the proma has a minimum headband of 2 volts)).

There are a few about, like the neuron thc (not the mini).

Thc will improve your cut, but only if it is fast and accurate and your z axis can move fast enough.

No I don't work in the industry or for neuron....  there are others about too, like candcnc, month (po-mo/ Denis), and Texasmicrocircuits, and more too... just look for those that run high resolution and high speed sampling.... some plug straight into the hyperthem using the correct CPC plug / connector.

Good luck

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 06, 2016, 03:28:51 PM »
Should read .... 5080 x 2 = 10160 steps per unit....

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 06, 2016, 02:36:33 PM »
The uc100 seems to be a good well supported motion controller, I would suggest if possible to try to reduce the controller frequency from 100khz to maybe 50khz, given even if you changed the ustep resolution to 10ustep, that has a maximum frequency of only about 33khz.

You can try other things like 10ustep resolution although that will double your steps per unit to 5080... that may help with resonance... but I don't think it will help with maximum velocity or acceleration


Also check your lookahead is set to about 200 lines on the general configuration tab.

What version of Mach3 are you using?
0.66 is not favoured....install 0.62 although difference I believe is in the control of mpgs... but worth a shot

Rob

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 06, 2016, 08:23:54 AM »
Ok, they are 5mm pitch leadscrews, and at 200ipm the drives will be pulsing at 16933 hz, so if you are running mach3 using the parallel port, then set the kernal frequency at 25khz.

I would suggest changing your step and dir pulse settings to 20 and trying it as it will coincide with 25khz kernal speed and still be faster than your 17khz max stepper speed..... nice chunky step

Your acceleration needs to come up in my opinion.... 5"/s/s.... at a cut feedrate of 150"/min .... 2.5"/sec means that your corers will be rounded by up to 0.625" (one axis will slow down on a 90deg corner while the other needs to start accelerating in constant velocity mode..... see one of the other recent posts I've commented on in the last day that has this problem...




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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 06, 2016, 06:58:57 AM »
when I spoke about copy drives.... here is a very similar drive to yours with a comprehensive selection manual.  Whilst it is not the same as your drives I would suggest a read as some of the info is still applicable on power supply selections and considerations.
http://www.leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/M542V2m.pdf

Within this manual is some useful information and considerations of power supply selection which may be worth a read to expand you knowledge in this area:
http://www.leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/DMShm_P.pdf

and the well known and referenced Gecko information is here:
http://www.geckodrive.com/support/step-motor-basics/power-supply-basics.html


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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 06, 2016, 01:48:46 AM »
The induction on those drives is quite high, have a look at these similar rated drives.

http://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/Stepper%20Motor%20Nema%2023%2060BYGH401-03%204Nm.pdf

No I don't work 4 the company..... just an example to consider.

You need to consider the parallel wiring arrangement.

I don't know how much you know about induction, but it is basically best to think of it as resistance to current flow that is proportional to motor speed..... faster the motor turns.... the higher the resistance..... a bit like wind resistance in a car..... but sometimes you are driving a sports car, and sometimes a bus.... except both have the same horsepower..... but they won't go as fast as each other.

The technical answer is XL = 2*pi*F*L, where XL is the inductive resistance (in ohms), pi is 22/7, F is the frequency of the input voltage to the drive, and L is the inductance.

Can you provide your steps per unit settings from within Mach, or the leadscrew pitch to consider too, thanks.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: 2M542 & Mach3 settings
« on: July 05, 2016, 08:04:56 PM »
I don't think those drives will like you getting too close to the peak voltage rating of 50v, due to back emf which may kill them (all depends whos drives they are, as there seem to be a few copies about).

In order to remove (reduce) resonance... increase microstepping resolution.

Why did you choose 5 microstep?  You talk about ipm... which normally means you may be running imperial pitch leadscrews.... what pitch are your leadscrews?

Why do you want 200ipm rapids?

What cutting feedrate are you intending to run?


I'd suggest making your drives use 1/2 current when stopped.... and not full current or you will need a larger power supply.... holding current is not normally a problem... as current is more used when the cutter is moving.

It's more about acceleration than high rapid speeds, as if the acceleration isn't there.... rapids mean nothing.

What acceleration are you running.... how did you tune the setup?

Suggest you try using a test gcode file, how big is your table travel?   Set the acceleration lowish, and find the maximum rapid speed, back it off to maybe 75%, then increase the acceleration till it stalls, and back of to 75% and you should be OK to start off with.

Power supply..... leadshine and gecko provide PDFs on power supply selection, do a search for those terms and see what comes up.

What do you intend to cut (material), and with what (cutter material, size and flutes?)