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General Mach Discussion / Re: RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START

« on: January 31, 2015, 06:14:29 PM »

Hi
I have just re drawn the ball in Bobcad and tried it again and it seems to work. I think maybe with chopping and changing it, it was me causing the problem. Here's the code it now gives me.
Does this look right?

(BEGIN PREDATOR NC HEADER)
(MCH_FILE=LATHE.MCH)
(END PREDATOR NC HEADER)
 
%
O00100 ( PROGRAM NUMBER )
( PROGRAM START - TURNING CYCLES )
( PROGRAM NAME: BALL.NC)
( POST: MACH 3 - METRIC )
( DATE: SAT. 01/31/2015)
( TIME: 11:07PM)
N01 G18 G21 G40 G80 G90 G99 G95
G91.1
(Machine Setup - 1  FACE OFF )
(TOOL #1    FACING******** )
N02 G00 G54
N03 T0101 M06
N04 G97 S500 M03
N05 X16. Z1.
N06 Z-.3
N07 G01 X0. F.2
N08 G00 Z0.
N09 X16.
N10 Z-.6
N11 G01 X0. F.2
N12 G00 Z-.3
N13 X16.
N14 Z-.9
N15 G01 X0. F.2
N16 G00 Z-.6
N17 X16.
N18 Z-1.
N19 G01 X0. F.2
N20 G00 Z1.
N21 X16.
N22 Z0.
(Machine Setup - 1  TURN OUTER )
(TOOL #2    TURNING***************** )
N23 G00 G54
N24 T0202 M06
N25 G97 S500 M03
N26 X17. Z0.
N27 X15.7
N28 G01 Z-50. F.2
N29 G00 X16.
N30 Z0.
N31 X15.4
N32 G01 Z-50. F.2
N33 G00 X15.7
N34 Z0.
N35 X15.1
N36 G01 Z-50. F.2
N37 G00 X15.4
N38 Z0.
N39 X15.
N40 G01 Z-50. F.2
N41 G00 X17.
N42 X16.
N43 Z0.
(Machine Setup - 1  TURN ARC )
(TOOL #3    ARC )
N44 G00 G54
N45 T0303 M06
N46 G97 S500 M03
N47 X16. Z-1.
N48 X14.7
N49 G01 Z-13.017 F.2
N50 G03 X15. Z-16. K-14.708 I-2.986 F.2
N51 G00 Z-1.
N52 X14.4
N53 G01 Z-11.802 F.2
N54 G03 X14.7 Z-13.017 K-14.407 I-4.201 F.2
N55 G00 Z-1.
N56 X14.1
N57 G01 Z-10.884 F.2
N58 X14.4 Z-11.802 F.2
N59 G00 Z-1.
N60 X13.8
N61 G01 Z-10.122 F.2
N62 X14.1 Z-10.884 F.2
N63 G00 Z-1.
N64 X13.5
N65 G01 Z-9.463 F.2
N66 X13.8 Z-10.122 F.2
N67 G00 Z-1.
N68 X13.2
N69 G01 Z-8.876 F.2
N70 X13.5 Z-9.463 F.2
N71 G00 Z-1.
N72 X12.9
N73 G01 Z-8.346 F.2
N74 X13.2 Z-8.876 F.2
N75 G00 Z-1.
N76 X12.6
N77 G01 Z-7.861 F.2
N78 X12.607 Z-7.872 F.2
N79 X12.9 Z-8.346 F.2
N80 G00 Z-1.
N81 X12.3
N82 G01 Z-7.415 F.2
N83 X12.6 Z-7.861 F.2
N84 G00 Z-1.
N85 X12.
N86 G01 Z-7.001 F.2
N87 X12.3 Z-7.415 F.2
N88 G00 Z-1.
N89 X11.7
N90 G01 Z-6.614 F.2
N91 X12. Z-7.001 F.2
N92 G00 Z-1.
N93 X11.4
N94 G01 Z-6.252 F.2
N95 X11.7 Z-6.614 F.2
N96 G00 Z-1.
N97 X11.1
N98 G01 Z-5.911 F.2
N99 X11.114 Z-5.927 F.2
N100 X11.4 Z-6.252 F.2
N101 G00 Z-1.
N102 X10.8
N103 G01 Z-5.591 F.2
N104 X11.1 Z-5.911 F.2
N105 G00 Z-1.
N106 X10.5
N107 G01 Z-5.289 F.2
N108 X10.8 Z-5.591 F.2
N109 G00 Z-1.
N110 X10.2
N111 G01 Z-5.002 F.2
N112 X10.5 Z-5.289 F.2
N113 G00 Z-1.
N114 X9.9
N115 G01 Z-4.731 F.2
N116 X10.2 Z-5.002 F.2
N117 G00 Z-1.
N118 X9.6
N119 G01 Z-4.475 F.2
N120 X9.89 Z-4.722 F.2
N121 X9.9 Z-4.731 F.2
N122 G00 Z-1.
N123 X9.3
N124 G01 Z-4.231 F.2
N125 X9.6 Z-4.475 F.2
N126 G00 Z-1.
N127 X9.
N128 G01 Z-4.001 F.2
N129 X9.3 Z-4.231 F.2
N130 G00 Z-1.
N131 X8.7
N132 G01 Z-3.781 F.2
N133 X9. Z-4.001 F.2
N134 G00 Z-1.
N135 X8.4
N136 G01 Z-3.573 F.2
N137 X8.7 Z-3.781 F.2
N138 G00 Z-1.
N139 X8.1
N140 G01 Z-3.375 F.2
N141 X8.4 Z-3.573 F.2
N142 G00 Z-1.
N143 X7.8
N144 G01 Z-3.188 F.2
N145 X8.1 Z-3.375 F.2
N146 G00 Z-1.
N147 X7.5
N148 G01 Z-3.01 F.2
N149 X7.8 Z-3.188 F.2
N150 G00 Z-1.
N151 X7.2
N152 G01 Z-2.842 F.2
N153 X7.5 Z-3.01 F.2
N154 G00 Z-1.
N155 X6.9
N156 G01 Z-2.682 F.2
N157 X7.2 Z-2.842 F.2
N158 G00 Z-1.
N159 X6.6
N160 G01 Z-2.53 F.2
N161 X6.9 Z-2.682 F.2
N162 G00 Z-1.
N163 X6.3
N164 G01 Z-2.388 F.2
N165 X6.6 Z-2.53 F.2
N166 G00 Z-1.
N167 X6.
N168 G01 Z-2.253 F.2
N169 X6.3 Z-2.388 F.2
N170 G00 Z-1.
N171 X5.7
N172 G01 Z-2.126 F.2
N173 X6. Z-2.253 F.2
N174 G00 Z-1.
N175 X5.4
N176 G01 Z-2.006 F.2
N177 X5.7 Z-2.126 F.2
N178 G00 Z-1.
N179 X5.1
N180 G01 Z-1.894 F.2
N181 X5.4 Z-2.006 F.2
N182 G00 Z-1.
N183 X4.8
N184 G01 Z-1.789 F.2
N185 X4.822 Z-1.796 F.2
N186 X5.1 Z-1.894 F.2
N187 G00 Z-1.
N188 X4.5
N189 G01 Z-1.691 F.2
N190 X4.8 Z-1.789 F.2
N191 G00 Z-1.
N192 X4.2
N193 G01 Z-1.6 F.2
N194 X4.5 Z-1.691 F.2
N195 G00 Z-1.
N196 X3.9
N197 G01 Z-1.516 F.2
N198 X4.2 Z-1.6 F.2
N199 G00 Z-1.
N200 X3.6
N201 G01 Z-1.439 F.2
N202 X3.882 Z-1.511 F.2
N203 X3.9 Z-1.516 F.2
N204 G00 Z-1.
N205 X3.3
N206 G01 Z-1.368 F.2
N207 X3.6 Z-1.439 F.2
N208 G00 Z-1.
N209 X3.
N210 G01 Z-1.303 F.2
N211 X3.3 Z-1.368 F.2
N212 G00 Z-1.
N213 X2.7
N214 G01 Z-1.245 F.2
N215 X3. Z-1.303 F.2
N216 G00 Z-1.
N217 X2.4
N218 G01 Z-1.194 F.2
N219 X2.685 Z-1.242 F.2
N220 X2.7 Z-1.245 F.2
N221 G00 Z-1.
N222 X2.1
N223 G01 Z-1.148 F.2
N224 X2.4 Z-1.194 F.2
N225 G00 Z-1.
N226 X1.8
N227 G01 Z-1.109 F.2
N228 X2.1 Z-1.148 F.2
N229 G00 Z-1.
N230 X1.5
N231 G01 Z-1.075 F.2
N232 X1.8 Z-1.109 F.2
N233 G00 Z-1.
N234 X1.2
N235 G01 Z-1.048 F.2
N236 X1.226 Z-1.05 F.2
N237 X1.47 Z-1.072 F.2
N238 X1.5 Z-1.075 F.2
N239 G00 Z-1.
N240 X.9
N241 G01 Z-1.027 F.2
N242 X1.2 Z-1.048 F.2
N243 G00 Z-1.
N244 X.6
N245 G01 Z-1.013 F.2
N246 X.9 Z-1.027 F.2
N247 G00 Z-1.
N248 X.3
N249 G01 Z-1.003 F.2
N250 X.6 Z-1.013 F.2
N251 G00 Z-1.
N252 X0.
N253 G01 X.3 Z-1.003 F.2
N254 G00 X16.
N255 X15.
N256 Z-1.
N257 M05
N258 M02
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General Mach Discussion / Re: RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START

« on: January 31, 2015, 05:48:16 PM »

Thanks for that I will try it.
 What I don't under stand is the program ran fine in the Bobcad simulation and its Bobcad outputting the code.   

Cheers
Mick

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General Mach Discussion / Re: RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START

« on: January 31, 2015, 04:13:20 PM »

Hi
I have tried abs and inc in distance mode but get the same result. Here is the code that will not run:

(BEGIN PREDATOR NC HEADER)
(MCH_FILE=LATHE.MCH)
(END PREDATOR NC HEADER)
 
%
O00300 ( PROGRAM NUMBER )
( PROGRAM START - TURNING CYCLES )
( PROGRAM NAME: BALL.NC)
( POST: MACH 3 - METRIC )
( DATE: SAT. 01/31/2015)
( TIME: 01:34PM)
N01 G18 G21 G40 G80 G90 G99 G95
G91.1
(Machine Setup - 1  Turn Rough )
(TOOL #1    MASTER TOOL )
N02 G00 G54
N03 T0101 M06
N04 G97 S500 M04
N05 X17. Z-1.
N06 X15.8
N07 G01 Z-50. F.2
N08 G00 X16.
N09 Z-1.
N10 X15.6
N11 G01 Z-50. F.2
N12 G00 X15.8
N13 Z-1.
N14 X15.4
N15 G01 Z-50. F.2
N16 G00 X15.6
N17 Z-1.
N18 X15.2
N19 G01 Z-50. F.2
N20 G00 X15.4
N21 Z-1.
N22 X15.
N23 G01 Z-50. F.2
N24 G00 X17.
N25 X16.
N26 Z-1.
(Machine Setup - 1  Turn Rough )
(TOOL #1    MASTER TOOL )
N27 G00 G54
N28 T0101
N29 G97 S500 M04
N30 X16. Z-1.
N31 X15.054
N32 G01 Z-13.539 F.2
N33 G03 X15.254 Z-16. K-15.187 I-2.473 F.2
N34 G00 Z-1.
N35 X14.854
N36 G01 Z-12.53 F.2
N37 X14.857 Z-12.543 F.2
N38 X15.051 Z-13.52 F.2
N39 X15.054 Z-13.539 F.2
N40 G00 Z-1.
N41 X14.654
N42 G01 Z-11.765 F.2
N43 X14.854 Z-12.53 F.2
N44 G00 Z-1.
N45 X14.454
N46 G01 Z-11.125 F.2
N47 X14.654 Z-11.765 F.2
N48 G00 Z-1.
N49 X14.254
N50 G01 Z-10.569 F.2
N51 X14.448 Z-11.106 F.2
N52 X14.454 Z-11.125 F.2
N53 G00 Z-1.
N54 X14.054
N55 G01 Z-10.071 F.2
N56 X14.254 Z-10.569 F.2
N57 G00 Z-1.
N58 X13.854
N59 G01 Z-9.618 F.2
N60 X14.054 Z-10.071 F.2
N61 G00 Z-1.
N62 X13.654
N63 G01 Z-9.2 F.2
N64 X13.854 Z-9.618 F.2
N65 G00 Z-1.
N66 X13.454
N67 G01 Z-8.812 F.2
N68 X13.46 Z-8.822 F.2
N69 X13.654 Z-9.2 F.2
N70 G00 Z-1.
N71 X13.254
N72 G01 Z-8.45 F.2
N73 X13.454 Z-8.812 F.2
N74 G00 Z-1.
N75 X13.054
N76 G01 Z-8.109 F.2
N77 X13.254 Z-8.45 F.2
N78 G00 Z-1.
N79 X12.854
N80 G01 Z-7.787 F.2
N81 X13.054 Z-8.109 F.2
N82 G00 Z-1.
N83 X12.654
N84 G01 Z-7.482 F.2
N85 X12.854 Z-7.787 F.2
N86 G00 Z-1.
N87 X12.454
N88 G01 Z-7.193 F.2
N89 X12.654 Z-7.482 F.2
N90 G00 Z-1.
N91 X12.254
N92 G01 Z-6.916 F.2
N93 X12.264 Z-6.929 F.2
N94 X12.454 Z-7.193 F.2
N95 G00 Z-1.
N96 X12.054
N97 G01 Z-6.653 F.2
N98 X12.254 Z-6.916 F.2
N99 G00 Z-1.
N100 X11.854
N101 G01 Z-6.4 F.2
N102 X12.054 Z-6.653 F.2
N103 G00 Z-1.
N104 X11.654
N105 G01 Z-6.158 F.2
N106 X11.854 Z-6.4 F.2
N107 G00 Z-1.
N108 X11.454
N109 G01 Z-5.926 F.2
N110 X11.645 Z-6.148 F.2
N111 X11.654 Z-6.158 F.2
N112 G00 Z-1.
N113 X11.254
N114 G01 Z-5.704 F.2
N115 X11.454 Z-5.926 F.2
N116 G00 Z-1.
N117 X11.054
N118 G01 Z-5.489 F.2
N119 X11.254 Z-5.704 F.2
N120 G00 Z-1.
N121 X10.854
N122 G01 Z-5.283 F.2
N123 X11.054 Z-5.489 F.2
N124 G00 Z-1.
N125 X10.654
N126 G01 Z-5.084 F.2
N127 X10.854 Z-5.283 F.2
N128 G00 Z-1.
N129 X10.454
N130 G01 Z-4.892 F.2
N131 X10.654 Z-5.084 F.2
N132 G00 Z-1.
N133 X10.254
N134 G01 Z-4.707 F.2
N135 X10.263 Z-4.714 F.2
N136 X10.446 Z-4.884 F.2
N137 X10.454 Z-4.892 F.2
N138 G00 Z-1.
N139 X10.054
N140 G01 Z-4.529 F.2
N141 X10.254 Z-4.707 F.2
N142 G00 Z-1.
N143 X9.854
N144 G01 Z-4.356 F.2
N145 X10.054 Z-4.529 F.2
N146 G00 Z-1.
N147 X9.654
N148 G01 Z-4.19 F.2
N149 X9.854 Z-4.356 F.2
N150 G00 Z-1.
N151 X9.454
N152 G01 Z-4.029 F.2
N153 X9.654 Z-4.19 F.2
N154 G00 Z-1.
N155 X9.254
N156 G01 Z-3.874 F.2
N157 X9.454 Z-4.029 F.2
N158 G00 Z-1.
N159 X9.054
N160 G01 Z-3.724 F.2
N161 X9.254 Z-3.874 F.2
N162 G00 Z-1.
N163 X8.854
N164 G01 Z-3.579 F.2
N165 X9.054 Z-3.724 F.2
N166 G00 Z-1.
N167 X8.654
N168 G01 Z-3.439 F.2
N169 X8.854 Z-3.579 F.2
N170 G00 Z-1.
N171 X8.454
N172 G01 Z-3.303 F.2
N173 X8.654 Z-3.439 F.2
N174 G00 Z-1.
N175 X8.254
N176 G01 Z-3.172 F.2
N177 X8.454 Z-3.303 F.2
N178 G00 Z-1.
N179 X8.054
N180 G01 Z-3.046 F.2
N181 X8.254 Z-3.172 F.2
N182 G00 Z-1.
N183 X7.854
N184 G01 Z-2.923 F.2
N185 X7.869 Z-2.932 F.2
N186 X8.054 Z-3.046 F.2
N187 G00 Z-1.
N188 X7.654
N189 G01 Z-2.805 F.2
N190 X7.854 Z-2.923 F.2
N191 G00 Z-1.
N192 X7.454
N193 G01 Z-2.691 F.2
N194 X7.654 Z-2.805 F.2
N195 G00 Z-1.
N196 X7.254
N197 G01 Z-2.582 F.2
N198 X7.438 Z-2.682 F.2
N199 X7.454 Z-2.691 F.2
N200 G00 Z-1.
N201 X7.054
N202 G01 Z-2.475 F.2
N203 X7.254 Z-2.582 F.2
N204 G00 Z-1.
N205 X6.854
N206 G01 Z-2.373 F.2
N207 X7.054 Z-2.475 F.2
N208 G00 Z-1.
N209 X6.654
N210 G01 Z-2.274 F.2
N211 X6.854 Z-2.373 F.2
N212 G00 Z-1.
N213 X6.454
N214 G01 Z-2.179 F.2
N215 X6.654 Z-2.274 F.2
N216 G00 Z-1.
N217 X6.254
N218 G01 Z-2.087 F.2
N219 X6.454 Z-2.179 F.2
N220 G00 Z-1.
N221 X6.054
N222 G01 Z-1.999 F.2
N223 X6.254 Z-2.087 F.2
N224 G00 Z-1.
N225 X5.854
N226 G01 Z-1.914 F.2
N227 X5.87 Z-1.921 F.2
N228 X6.054 Z-1.999 F.2
N229 G00 Z-1.
N230 X5.654
N231 G01 Z-1.833 F.2
N232 X5.854 Z-1.914 F.2
N233 G00 Z-1.
N234 X5.454
N235 G01 Z-1.755 F.2
N236 X5.64 Z-1.827 F.2
N237 X5.654 Z-1.833 F.2
N238 G00 Z-1.
N239 X5.254
N240 G01 Z-1.68 F.2
N241 X5.454 Z-1.755 F.2
N242 G00 Z-1.
N243 X5.054
N244 G01 Z-1.608 F.2
N245 X5.254 Z-1.68 F.2
N246 G00 Z-1.
N247 X4.854
N248 G01 Z-1.539 F.2
N249 X5.054 Z-1.608 F.2
N250 G00 Z-1.
N251 X4.654
N252 G01 Z-1.474 F.2
N253 X4.854 Z-1.539 F.2
N254 G00 Z-1.
N255 X4.454
N256 G01 Z-1.411 F.2
N257 X4.465 Z-1.414 F.2
N258 X4.654 Z-1.474 F.2
N259 G00 Z-1.
N260 X4.254
N261 G01 Z-1.351 F.2
N262 X4.454 Z-1.411 F.2
N263 G00 Z-1.
N264 X4.054
N265 G01 Z-1.295 F.2
N266 X4.254 Z-1.351 F.2
N267 G00 Z-1.
N268 X3.854
N269 G01 Z-1.241 F.2
N270 X4.054 Z-1.295 F.2
N271 G00 Z-1.
N272 X3.654
N273 G01 Z-1.191 F.2
N274 X3.854 Z-1.241 F.2
N275 G00 Z-1.
N276 X3.454
N277 G01 Z-1.143 F.2
N278 X3.654 Z-1.191 F.2
N279 G00 Z-1.
N280 X3.254
N281 G01 Z-1.097 F.2
N282 X3.26 Z-1.099 F.2
N283 X3.454 Z-1.143 F.2
N284 G00 Z-1.
N285 X3.054
N286 G01 Z-1.055 F.2
N287 X3.254 Z-1.097 F.2
N288 G00 Z-1.
N289 X2.854
N290 G01 Z-1.016 F.2
N291 X3.054 Z-1.055 F.2
N292 G00 Z-1.
N293 X2.772
N294 G01 X2.854 Z-1.016 F.2
N295 G00 X16.254
N296 X15.254
N297 Z-1.
(Machine Setup - 1  Turn Basic Finish )
(TOOL #1    MASTER TOOL )
N298 G00 G54
N299 T0101
N300 G97 S500 M04
N301 X16. Z-1.
N302 X-.1
N303 G03 X15. Z-16. K-.008 I-15.108 F.1
N304 G00 X30.
N305 Z-1.
N306 M05
N307 M02
%

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General Mach Discussion / Re: RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START

« on: January 31, 2015, 02:36:13 PM »

Hi
In mach3 in general config I have IJ set to inc. The code bobcad is putting out is showing G91.1 at the beginning of the code.

Cheers
Mick

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General Mach Discussion / RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START

« on: January 31, 2015, 12:56:22 PM »

Hi
Not completely new here but was wondering if anyone can help me out with this problem.
Recently purchased Bobcad which is great very pleased. Having a problem with the Arc feature when posting to Mach3. I keep getting an error (RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START).
I scanned the forums and noticed a few people had the same problem but not using Bobcad. I have tried in gen config changing from absolute to inc mode and various other things as suggested but still keep getting the same error.
Any thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Mick 

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: New people welcome !! Come in here and introduce your self!

« on: January 31, 2015, 12:54:38 PM »

Hi
Not completely new here but was wondering if anyone can help me out with this problem.
Recently purchased Bobcad which is great very pleased. Having a problem with the Arc feature when posting to Mach3. I keep getting an error (RADIUS TO END OF ARC DIFFERS FROM RADIUS TO START).
I scanned the forums and noticed a few people had the same problem but not using Bobcad. I have tried in gen config changing from absolute to inc mode and various other things as suggested but still keep getting the same error.
Any thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Mick 

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Need cadcam software

« on: November 22, 2014, 05:25:35 PM »

Cheers Hood
I have looked at bobcad but its a bit expensive?

Mick

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General Mach Discussion / Need cadcam software

« on: November 22, 2014, 03:59:08 AM »

Hi There

I am a bit new to cnc and I have 90% completed a boxford lathe conversion to mach3. Does anyone have any links to any free lathe cadcam software. I am using NFS turn at the moment which is a great program but when I start building a program and make a mistake, deleting the last operation deletes the whole file. I can retrieve the file from Newprogram.tap and reload it but its annoying and time consuming.
Any suggestions would be great.

Mick       

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Tool Offsets

« on: November 15, 2014, 04:42:42 PM »

Hi Hood
Cheers for that just got back from having a curry and some beer so will have a look in the morning!

Cheers
Mick

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General Mach Discussion / Tool Offsets

« on: November 15, 2014, 02:25:48 PM »

Hi everyone

Can anyone please shed some light on tool offsets for me. I have a boxford slant bed lathe with a 8 station tool turret. I have finally got the tool change operation working right thanks to a lot of help from "Hood". My machine has a home switch on all three axis. What I am struggling to understand is the Z offset. With most tools on the X axis you can slowly Jog down to a work piece and touch off to get the offset. With the Z axis how do you position it to be 100% accurate. With some tools it's easy to touch the face of a work piece but with a lot of tools EG (Left and right hand tools, threading tools, tools with large radius) I can't see how you would do this accurately.

Please excuse me if this is a silly question but I am new to cnc and learning all the time. I would really appreciate any help.

Cheers
Mick