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General Mach Discussion / Re: Physical buttons for plasma
« on: November 20, 2016, 03:49:54 AM »
Hiya Hood, welcome to the world of plasma - a world of pain :)

Apologies if i am preaching here but...

I am the opposite to you - I started in CNC plasma first then progressed to the luxury of CNC milling ;)

Double-arcing will kill consumables fast, what torch/system are you using ?? I ask this because I wasted many hundreds of ££ and hours and hair by using poor plasma systems at the start because i thought i could save some £££ - I was wrong, I worked through three systems before i got it going, nearly made me give up and throw the towel in. The ONLY thing that saved me was splashing the cash on a Hypertherm 30XP which was later upgrade to a Hypertherm 45 - once you go Hypertherm you never go back ;) Hypertherm torches do not double arc, at least i have never managed it.

Next is air supply - it must be dry, totally dry and oil free, I have a little refrigerated drier as well as the usual water traps in line.

Next is THC - the torch needs to find initial pierce height repeatably and accurately, then it must drop to cut height rapidly and accurately when the Arc-Ok signal is seen by the controller.

I won't mention motion as your table has servos so should be better than my stepper one.

Don't bother using the "book specs" for cut speed or voltage, just use pierce height and cut height, the rest is all measured on your table, let us know and i'll explain how its done if you want.

Once that lot is sorted out, the fun starts - plasma is never a cut and run system it seems - I still get bad days when it refuses to cut or blows a tip, but these days are between many days of good running now so i don't mind so much.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Need CNC beginning guide
« on: November 20, 2016, 03:25:11 AM »
Youtube is loaded with stuff on CAM tutorials, many different programs in use from basic drawing and sketch up to Illustrator etc, for an all in one CAD - CAM setup you probably won't get better than Vectric Aspire or one of the sub-variants - this will get you drawing, text, engraving, carving etc. InkScape is a great little program and its free, this will get you the ability to draw vector paths which is what is needed to pass on to a CAM program, something like SheetCam is a fantastic one for sheet work (not 3d) I use it a lot on the Plasma cutter.

I feel it only fair to let you know that in my opinion at least, CAD & CAM is one of the hardest parts of CNC to get right, this is where the learning curve starts - converting an idea in your head or a sketch on paper into G-Code that can run a machine to create that part is a big undertaking. The good thing is that it is a steep learning curve - once you get going it gets easier very quickly. :)

I have just started learning Fusion360 - a full 3d CAD / CAM app, but I would recommend starting on the easy end of the scale :)

As i said, YouTube is your friend here I think, also join some CAD forums etc.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: biggish servo spindle
« on: November 19, 2016, 03:50:26 AM »
Hood,
On a position command, it oscillates wildly and faults out

That sounds like drive/motor tuning needs to be done.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Bridgeport Knee Mill Conversion?
« on: November 15, 2016, 12:17:47 PM »
Steps-per or measured?

Considering I have ballscrews with a pitch of 0.2" or 5.08mm with a connection ratio of 2:1 and encoders with 10,000 pulses (all edges), should there be a reason to stray from a purely mathematical steps-per setting of 3937.00788 ??

I have no way of mapping the screw so measuring at one point seems like it could cause some variation at other points no?

Is it best to stick with calculated steps or try and measure using the axis calibrator??

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New cnc machine running but....
« on: November 14, 2016, 07:38:07 AM »
Hey a little off topic but you all seem smart I'm trying to check this motor for shorts am I doing it right ? (Building a RC tank)
https://youtu.be/-rYI7W-YqxE

https://youtu.be/OWcKul4gC_s


That looks like a wiper motor from a car? There should be a connection for the motor - this will have resistance, and also a connection for a 'park' switch - this will be open or closed depending where the motor stopped.

They are useful motors.

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CS-Lab / Re: IP-A and Servo drives, voltage matching...
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:32:09 AM »
Spent a good few hours this morning playing with tuning, did not get any further forwards or any improvement over where i was at the start.

I can get it the oscillate, vibrate, overshoot etc but its all speed relative - tune slow, will not run fast, tune fast will not run slow.

There seems to be a massive amount of contradiction on tuning as well - the CS-Labs manual says tune P first then add I, earlier in this thread I was advised tune P first then D.

I have tried both, D seems to very little.

In the end i pushed P until i got oscillation at a certain speed, checked it at various speeds then backed it off, the added I until I saw no further improvement in following error, then tweaked it with a little Kvff. So its back to where I was before, I cannot get following error below about 380-400 on this axis (X).

I can't find any videos either - it must be specific to CS-Labs controllers or it makes no sense.

Auto-Tune is terrible - very poor rigidity and pretty poor following error too.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New cnc machine running but....
« on: November 12, 2016, 06:35:22 AM »
Those drives *should* be ok but as i said i have not used them before.

Yes just the drives and a break-out board should do it, get a decent opto-isolated BOB.

How big was your PSU?, I would use at least a 600W 36v one myself, but 24v would probably be ok as speeds are not blistering fast. 36v should be fine on those drives but no higher.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New cnc machine running but....
« on: November 12, 2016, 06:06:34 AM »
Hmm, I'm running out of knowledge now ;)

The speeds look ok - between 760 and 2540mm/min although the first video seemed much lower?

i Gather the 400 steps per yields the correct size parts, if so then it is correct and does not need looking at further.

What is the drive method - trapezoidal screw, ball-screw, threaded rod ??

I have only used the leadshine style drives similar to the ones you linked and very well known.

As i said, i'm running out of tips really, I've only been doing this a few years myself so still learning ;)

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New cnc machine running but....
« on: November 12, 2016, 03:10:57 AM »
I've not heard anything good about these all-in-1 boards really, they seem to either work, work for a while or do not work at all and very hard to debug.

Before going for drivers, what settings do you have in mach for velocity, acceleration, steps per.

What feed rate is the code in the video calling for, post a snippet?

The voltage would help a little but not if a setting is out or driver is duff.

Do you the board set for max motor current?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New cnc machine running but....
« on: November 11, 2016, 08:58:20 AM »
Back in the day i would just unwind a few turns. :)