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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 24, 2006, 09:11:30 PM »

I had already started working on that first one and have made significant progress with it.  At first it was telling me that it was corrupt or a MACH2 file, but I just ignored the error and continued.  I put back all my original settings, and now I can power the machine off and on with about 90% success rate with the motors jogging.  Once in a while X doesn' t jog, but this is so much better that it is not important.  I had to play with the tuning, This machine will run at 4000 pulses, 45 speed and 20 accel, faster than that and it stops running.  But that is acceptable to me. 

After I restated the program, it doesn't give the corrupt or mach2 error any longer.

Except for the X not running once in a while on machine power up, I am very happy with this.  If you want I'll try the other test files, just let me know if there is reason to mess with them since I am mostly fine now.


Very much appreciated!  This has been more frustrating than you can ever imagine.

Thanks

Todd

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 22, 2006, 12:50:25 PM »

All I did was look in the MACH3 folder and grab the file.

If you couldn't red it, here is a text version that has a whole lot of stuff that makes no sense to me.

Is there another location to look?

It is chjecked MAXNC CL mode though in the window, else it doesn't run at all.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 22, 2006, 03:56:26 AM »

Sorry, been slammed for a few days.

Here is the file.

Thanks for checking it out.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 21, 2006, 03:27:19 AM »

Is your problem that Mach3 won't load

Mach3 always loads.  Mach3 never crashes, the computer never crashes.  The machine simply doesn't move when told to move on many occasions until the magic kicks in, then it will work for a long time if you are lucky.  The machine will never run twice ina  row.

Typical example:

1. Turn on the machine, doesn't jog
2. Turn off machine, turn it on again, test for jog,    10-20  tries, no jog
3. Finally maybe it jogs for a split second, then stops
4. Turn off machine again, turn on machine, test for jog, 5 more times
6. finally machine may run, or run for splir second

When the machine finally "connects" and will jog, you can usually do a part

7.  Turn off machine, return at any later to do another part
8. Machine doesn't jog, power off/on machine 5 to 20 times till it jogs


In all, we are talking about 200 power off/on per day, every day.

Output 16 port 1 pin 16  X
Output 17 port 1 pin 17 Check act low

If these are not as above, nothing will work, ever.

If enable port 1 pin 16 is checked, whether act low of not, no difference
If enable port 1 pin 17 is checked, whether act low of not, no difference

Any combination of act low or high on these enables makes no difference


Currently all startup items are off
In services:

Plug n play, just a few essetials  and thats it

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 20, 2006, 06:52:15 PM »

The manufacturer software called MAXNC works fine, but it is not something I can deal with, it is DOS software running on WIndows, no mouse, no long words are visible, very awkwrard program that  I will not use ever under any circumstances.

The problem has always existed since day 1.  I am now going through motions of removing all services to try to find a solution.  I  have already removed all Startup items.  Next I removed ALL SERVICES in MSCONFIG.  At that point it would never start up, so I added back in the plug and play, COM+ and now it is better odds at working.  Prior it was 1 in 20 tries to get it to run, now it is 1 in 3 in my first few tests.

Thanks

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 20, 2006, 03:21:17 PM »

I just turned off everything in the list.  It still took powering up the machine around 20 times to finally connect and jog.  Once it jogged for a second and stopped,  then after a few more power cycles it finally ran jogged for a bit without stopping.

Yesterday alone I restarted the machine around 250 times just to get through the day.  Usually once it is going good, it will go the day until powering off, but this is a closed loop system and very noisy when not in use, so I must power it on and off thoughout the day as needed.  Once it goes, you can usually make it through a part, once you turn it off, it is black magic and chanting to get   to run again.  Sometimes it takes 15 mintues to come back.

With no exageration, I have lost easily 4 weeks in the last 10 months on this problem.  Something is confilicting that is causing it to lose or not make connection on start up, and occassionally it loses it after startup.    I have tried new cables, I have been through the machines controller board for lose connections, plus the factory has been through the board as well.  I have turned off everything that can be turned off on the PC. 

The owner of the machine company says not to use Mach software, but I have to find way to make this work as theirs is a big hassle.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 19, 2006, 09:31:05 PM »

Driver test:

Approx 25k
CPu  1506
Apic 11442

37 *********xx
45 *********xx

graph shows steady level of low noise with spikes here and there

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 19, 2006, 08:05:42 PM »

Breaker is on machine controller, a lttle pop-out button  sorry about that detail left out.    The breaker popping is not as frequent and less important in terms of inconvenience, although likely they are inter-related problems.  The machine usually stops working when not in motion, only rarely does it stop in the middlwe of a cut.  Usually it is just sittig there idle, you go to jog and it is dead, although whining still from the servos.

I have reinstalled windows prior.  The PC never crashes ever, just the machie stops moving and the machine needs reboot. 

Driver test in a few minutes when part is done.

Thanks

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 19, 2006, 06:42:34 PM »

Here are a few more details:

1. Sometimes on reboot one or more motor will jog at very low speed.
2. Sometimes on ref home a motor sounds like it is gurgling or grinding although there is no load
3. today I have rebooted the machine at least 50 times just to get through a part.  At variouis times it will just stop moving.  I have replaced the cable but no difference.
4. Sometimes after machine  reboot, I can attempt to jog, and it will only jog a few rev's before stopping movement.  Then reboort is required.  Sometimes on reboot, if  have tried to jog prior to fully booting up, it will jump, then stall. 
5.  I have tried lower and higher accel speeds in tuning
6.  I have tried various delays in tuning

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General Mach Discussion / Re: MAXNC10CL and MACH3 issues

« on: September 19, 2006, 04:15:53 PM »

Thanks Chip

d1.90.036 is the engine
MACH3 1.0.0.1
Speed of cpu is 1.7
approx 800m ram

The breaker is not daily, but often.  The swiches are all fine,  the unit stops at random places, not always at ref home but it is coincidental though, one thought is the low homing speed preceeding the stop. I would notice abind on the motors if the switches were not funcioning.  The breaker usually pops while sitting still, never in motion.

Let me know what else you want to know.

Thanks