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5141
Hi,
how about fitting a voltmeter on the output of the 107 to see if the analogue voltage is persistant.

If it is it suggests that the VFD is faulting out.

Craig

5142
Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach4 Button OFFLINE
« on: March 01, 2018, 06:22:10 AM »
Hi,
have you put the latest code I posted into a separate file? Have you then run the code through the editor debugger?

Have you removed the Toggle button and replaced it with an ordinary button? I would suggest you do not attach any code to it.
Because you did not initially put the code in a separate file you have fragments of code, a lot of it buggy, distributed through out Mach.
The whole point of putting the code in a file was to prevent just that. It is now going to be hard to track it all down and get rid of it.

The code works fine here, I'm guessing you have not set it up as I instructed.

Craig

5143
General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 turn
« on: March 01, 2018, 03:25:59 AM »
Hi,
the primary difference between GRBL, Stepper Bee or your TC5520 and controllers of that ilke and Mach, or indeed any of the main stream CNC control products, is Gcode.
There is no agreement as to what constitutes standard Gcode but most recognize Fanuc as the de-facto standard and just about all Gcode interpreters will implement
it...but not so the smaller controllers like GRBL etc.

There is a vast industry in and around CAD and CAM. The generation of Gcode for industrial purposes is as old as CNC itself. If you wish to participate in
and use the software base that represents to machine parts then get Mach3 or Mach4 or UCCNC or LinuxCNC or....or..... and the list goes on.

Hardware can be as cheap as a few hundred dollars to several millions of dollars....where abouts on that spread are you?

Mach3 is and was natively a parallel port system. Increasingly parallel port capable machines are dying and are being replaced by a PC and external motion controller.
The only advantage of the humble parallel port (to go with its long list of limitations) is that is free.

If your serious about using industrial grade Gcode and want to use Mach3 (or Mach4) do yourself a favour and get an external controller, and not some cheap junk either,
this forum is littered with stories of guys who couldn't resist a bargain and got ripped with a piece of s*********t. A reputable external controller is around $200 and Mach is
another $200 (just ball park figures). If that suits your budget all well and good. If it seems a bit steep then I would advise look elsewhere than Mach, its inexpensive
but not free!

Craig

5144
General Mach Discussion / Re: Z stop errors
« on: March 01, 2018, 02:48:57 AM »
Hi,
using shielded cable certainly helps but if you think it will defeat electrical noise you're dreaming. Sorry to be blunt but this myth about shielding has to be busted.

Imagine a signal to a stepper driver, say a 5V pulse working into an impedance of 1kOhm, a fairly typical set of numbers. The energy in a 1 millisecond pulse is
(5)squared/1k *.001= 25uJ, yes only 25 microjoule. An electric motor cable lying next to our signal cable may have a pulse of 100V and 5A for the same 1 millisecond.
Its pulse energy is 100*5*.001=0.5 joule, that is 20,000 times the energy in our signal cable.

If we wish to retain the signal as relatively 'unpolluted' by its electrically noisy neighbor the shielding will have to reduce the radiated energy by something like 50,000
times, just about impossible.

Worse electronically controlled motors tend to have high frequency switching currents and all those jagged current pulses radiate very strongly. Physical separation even
of only an inch or so will markedly improve the situation, separation AND shielding now starts to look like a real solution.

Another area that is overlooked is working impedance levels. You noted that I used a reasonably low impedance (1kOhm) to model the input of the driver but
manufacturers can and do use impedances of 10K, 20K and 50K. The current required to signal the device is markedly reduced, a good good thing, but the pulse
energy is now so low that it will be very very VERY easily swamped by any electrical noise.

The upshot is that  currents of around 5-20mA are appropriate for signaling stepper/servo drivers in amateur service, they will often work at very much lower currents
but become increasingly susceptible to noise.

Craig

5145
Mach3 under Vista / Re: Issue with slave motor when running gcode
« on: March 01, 2018, 01:58:56 AM »
Hi,
I stand corrected, the PMDX-424 is Mach4 only. I thought it had a pre-existing Mach3 plugin, but not so.

No problems though, Mach4 is new and in some respects quite different to Mach3 and so will cause you some hand wringing. Once you start getting the
hang of Lua, Screen Editing, modular scripts and so on, and I don't mean to gloss over the learning curve, it is steep but the reward is very VERY satisfying.

As you may have gathered PMDX is a very VERY 'safe pair of hands', you'll never regret buying from them.

Craig

5146
General Mach Discussion / Re: Z stop errors
« on: February 28, 2018, 09:25:15 PM »
Hi,
quite possible its electrical noise. Try putting a smallish capacitor (1-10 nf) across the Z axis limit signal line and 0V.

Craig

5147
Hi,
could be, won't know until you try.

Craig

5148
Hi,
sounds like Mach is trying to drive to the correct place but the axis is not following.

I think a series of MDI commands excersising the Z axis up and down is in order. I suspect you will find that
the axis is missing steps.

G1 Z50 F500
Z0
Z50
Z0
Z50
Z0

should see the z axis go up and down 50mm at 500mm/min. If it doesn't end up where it started then you are losing steps.

Craig

5149
General Mach Discussion / Re: Teknic Clearpath Servo setting for Mach3
« on: February 28, 2018, 07:00:29 PM »
Hi,
if hancock doesn't or cant reply can you post the manual, we may be able to help.

Craig

5150
Hi,
does the Z DRO correctly reflect where the axis ACTUALLY is or where it SUPPOSED to be?

Craig

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