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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Simple one line MDI required
« on: May 28, 2018, 05:54:19 PM »
Hi,
as you are discovering Mach4 can be customised almost endlessly.

If the MDI is executed from a button script like all Lua functions it will return. You could use the return
event to clear the MDI panel.

Craig

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Hi,
the spec, BEMF/1000RPM=39V, seems pretty plain. This is known as the Back Electro Motive Force constant, hence the acronym BEMF.

If the motor were driven by another motor at 1000rpm there would be 39V at the terminals. This is an important figure of merit for a servo.

Doing the calculation with a figure of 7V per 1000 rpm, which I suspect is in fact the tacho feedback device, then the shaft power of 800W could only be sustained
for a short period of time. With a figure of 39V per 1000 rpm that output could be sustained continuously. This is a more realistic and more probable than my previous
reasoning. I think it wise to consider the existing servos to be in the region of 800W continuous.

That has implications for your rebuild. You would ideally replace them with something of the same power but that is going to get expensive quickly. If you were doing
this for commercial purposes it would still be pretty cheap but if you have to convince your wife that you really really need it she might not believe you! You could use smaller
servos and have either a gear or belt reduction, that would increase the torque to that necessary to overcome friction and inertia but be a little slower. That would probably be
a good compromise for a hobby machine.

As I've pointed out the medium inertia 750W DMM servos and drives are  about $412 an axis. They could be relied upon to be a direct replacement for your existing servos.
You could save a bit by getting 400W servo and drives, $385 per axis. You'd probably need a belt reduction of 2;1 to match your existing servos, but that would be very doable.

If you choose to retain the two X and Y servos there are some choices to make. Given that the Gailil is only two axis its no good as a controller. If you chose a HiCon board from
Vital Systems AND paid the premium to get the analogue features enabled the you could drive your two servos and still have the capacity to add another or even more than
one for the Z axis. A HiCon with activations is about $1200-$1300. Note this would allow you to use the two servos AND your original drives.

If you replaced the drives with Geckos or something similar then you could use a much cheaper controller like an ESS or a UC300. Either controller would allow you to feed the two
Geckos with step/direction pulses and still have plenty of capacity left over for the Z axis. You'd still need a servo and drive for the Z axis, say $400 and two Geckos say another $300
for the pair, for about $700 total.

I think you'd be very impressed with AC servos but despite them becoming ever more affordable they are still somewhat of a premium. If you were to try to buy NEW DC
servos, then I suspect they would be even more expensive.

I was given a 100W DC servo off a customers plasma table, this table is $150,000 or more and the whole business of thirty or more people rely on its output to stay
working. It has a faulty line driver in the encoder. I can probably jury-rig a new line driver, this servo is now only a spare. But no, we want a new encoder, I found the
OEM and priced getting a new encoder made to suit, $585USD, prepaid, one month leadtime plus freight to New Zealand, and we want a markup....Funny that they didn't
seem that keen once the numbers were put in front of them. I could get TWO NEW AC servos and matching drives with more power than they could get one encoder!
Even more, the business is about 4 doors down from the local distributor of Omron/Yaskawa. I could walk in get what I need off the shelf and Yaskawa is serious good quality
but they cant get their head around AC servos......they insist that servos have to be DC, how else can they be closed loop they ask. I've given up trying to explain to them how they
work....When the table craps out we'll see how amenable to alternate solutions when they're out of action!

Sorry about my rant. The point is that DC servos are rapidly going obsolete.

Craig

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Hi,
in Device Manager expand the USB Hub entry and right click on Root USB HUB, click Properties and look at the Power Management tab. Does it show that the OS may turn
the USB Root Hub off to save power?

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach4 to Mach3
« on: May 28, 2018, 12:41:53 AM »
Hi,
I use MB026's from Peter Homan, Homan Designs, Austrailia. Near enough to local for me.
They've been great. They don't have either a digital to analogue output nor relays or 24V
outputs. I'm into electronics so any of those I prefer to design and build my own.
What they do have which I'd have to recommend, in fact would say they are mandatory is LEDs
on all inputs and outputs.

I might be into electronics but personal experience tells me the risk of me blowing something up
when trying to probe a board or connector with a multimeter is high. Don't do it! One slip and it can,
at worse case, be all over for the board your working on. LEDs on the outputs obviates the need
for it and you can see all of them at a glance, just the 'dogs dangly bits'.

I'll post a pic but may not be able to do so tonight.

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach4 to Mach3
« on: May 27, 2018, 09:45:40 PM »
Hi Klaus,
I use breakout boards firstly because of the convenience of hooking wires up but more importantly
because it buffers the IO pins of the ESS to the oustide world.

I've  popped one input one one BoB, it was an Estop, I don't know exactly what or how I did it
but I'm glad its only a BoB....not the ESS!!!

Craig

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Hi,

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Everyone who attempts to change the way the jog works is going to go through these mental gymnastics.
You want to CHANGE the way it works therefore you assume responsibility for the effort.

Look under Diagnostics/Regfile...expand the various categories and have a look.

Craig

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Hi.
sounds like some power saving feature of the PC.

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Vista CNC P1A-S with Mach4 - Problem
« on: May 27, 2018, 09:44:55 AM »
Hi,
I wonder if Lee is aware that to my knowledge his pendants are the ONLY pendants on the market that have a Mach4 plugin written by the manufacturer of the pendant.

If the plugin/pendant combination is reliable, ie somewhat better than it is now, then a good sales opportunity exists.

Craig

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Hi,

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button is calling "Job X-" action, but I've searched through the screen script and that's not in there
While some buttons have 'left down' scripts for instance however others have an 'action' That action is programmed within Machs core where you cant see it or edit it,
and they're probably all in C++ anyway.

Craig

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Hi,
I'm a bit confused myself.

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however, it does appear to have changed the mc.X_AXIS variable because now I can read back that value using GetJogInc() and it shows me 0.001mm!
mc.X_AXIS is NOT a variable, it is an ENUM, it is the number of the X axis. Its defined within Machs core and you cant change it.

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In other words, mc.X_AXIS can't be the value it's using when it actually goes to jog.
That is correct, mc.X_AXIS is of type number, I suspect its value is one, it is not a jog increment,

Craig


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