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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mirror probing
« on: March 31, 2019, 07:35:28 PM »
Hi Don,
I have a variation of the idea of either rotating the rifle under the probe or rotating the probe head.

My proposal is to have three probes (plunger micro switches, you know the cheap and cheerful ones!) mounted
on a plate which in turn mounts in the spindle.

To probe at or near the center line of the rifle you would monitor the output of the center (vertical probe)
and move it with Gcodes lke:

G31 Z-1 F4

If you are not familiar with probing G31 is the probe code. The move (in absence of X and Y coordinate data) is
downwards to Z=-1 inch. When a probe event is detected the movement stops and the motion controller reports
the XYZ position of the event.

This is very much the common use of the G31 probe command. It is not however the only way to use it.
for instance if you coded:
G31 Y-1 Z-1 F4

Then the motion would be in the YZ plane at 450 to vertical. If you monitored the probe parallel to
the direction of motion it would record a probe event as normal.

You can see where this is going. What I'm trying to do is arrive at a compromise that does not require either
rotating the rifle OR rotating the Probe head, because such rotation device would require extensive 'making'. This
alternative is an approximation to the rotating Probe head idea.

I will admit also that because Mach4 has the possibility of four separate probes the idea occurred to me to utilize that
ability. This could still be done in Mach3 but would require all three probe heads to be wired in parallel so that if any
one of them triggered a probe event and its associated data point would be recorded. That would work fine provided
that if for instance you are probing with a vertical movement (-Z direction) and either the right or left hand probe were
to strike some part of the rifle that would cause a trigger event erroneously.

Does the idea appeal?

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: How do I make the Extents mode visible
« on: March 31, 2019, 07:00:36 PM »
Hi Smurph,
thanks for that explanation.

Does the fact that the tool path display is moved into the GUI in its entirety mean that the mcToolPath* APIs no
longer work or perhaps clash with how the GUI is operating?

Most of my machining, excluding PCB isolation routing, is pretty simple, face the material, two pockets and a row of holes....
sort of thing. I use MillWizard, I like it, and its so simple.

I have a hankering to do something similar but rather than a wizard it would be another page (tab) in Mach4. Getting the
required input data and using Lua to generate the Gcode would be long winded but eminently possible. In order for the
operator (me) to confirm the Gcode prior to machining I would like to use Machs tool path display, maybe even interactively.
Is it possible for me to seize control of Machs tool path window or alternately create a new one for the purposes of my
Gcode visualization pane?

I would also like to take the opportunity to thank you, and if you would be kind enough to pass on my thanks to other
members of the development team, for the advances made to Mach4 in recent times. You may have noted I have been
vociferously (who me?? ::)) promoting Mach4 recently. The most recent developments Surface Map, script based THC
and Trace now put Mach4 squarely ahead of Mach3 functionality. Not only is Mach4 more functional than Mach3 but
those things that Mach3 does are so much better in Mach4, the Modbus plugin is one example and the use of Lua is another.

Do you have any more developments in mind for the near future?

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mirror probing
« on: March 31, 2019, 06:31:32 PM »
Hi Don,
Terry's (BR549, good to see Terry) is the classic method, namely rotate the object you are trying to probe
or measure.

That may represent a challenge, rotating the rifle accurately (between centers?) given that they are so long.
The same result could be achieved if the probe were fitted in a rotating head. It would require making
a probe head assembly that fitted in your spindle and yet could rotate in the Y plane.

Depending on how often you have to do this work it may prove simpler/cheaper in the long run to go back to
your epoxy mold.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 Threading Hangs
« on: March 31, 2019, 06:23:15 PM »
Hi,

Quote

p.s. - Maybe it's a timing issue introduced by the Ethernet interface???  I'm not sure I see how that could be but maybe...

No, it can't be. The UC300 handles threading timing at the hardware level itself. Mach supervises but due to
communication delay it cannot initiate a threading pass, that has to be critically timed by the UC300.

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: How do I make the Extents mode visible
« on: March 31, 2019, 02:23:13 AM »
Hi Smurph,
have been experimenting, all's good.

A few questions
Is it possible to set the linestyle?
In the API there is a function mcToolPathGetDrawLimits(), does this still use the soft limits data as the boundaries
or is it possible to draw a boundary with different data within the soft limits boundary.

The reason I ask is that there was a question on the forum, quite a while ago now, that remained largely
unanswered. The guy wanted a boundary as a visual guide but within the sift limits so that a small accidental
excursion outside of his visual boundary but did still not trigger a soft limits fault.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Goofy forum layout
« on: March 31, 2019, 02:02:09 AM »
Hi,
I think the general consensus is to get rid of the video altogether.

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: How do I make the Extents mode visible
« on: March 31, 2019, 12:55:57 AM »
Hi Smurph,
thanks for that, it did not seem likely that you would remove features!

Craig

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach4 Parallel Port Legacy Plugin
« on: March 30, 2019, 08:58:59 PM »
Hi Tom,
your experience is not dissimilar to my own.

I really switched to Mach4 because of Lua. I was just starting to write code for Mach3 in VB and I hated it, it seemed to have
so many exceptions and quirks that I thought that if I was going to learn a new language at least let it be something other
than VB.

So once I got Mach4....that's when the trouble started....I struggled for quite a while, firstly trying to set up the ESS,
an  operator oversight if truth be known, getting my VistaCNC pendant to work. Then I started to learn Lua, well in truth
its a much about the internal structure of Mach4 and its API as it is about Lua.

I seriously thought that I had made a mistake getting into Mach4 and NFS had made a mistake in using Lua........until
I started having some success. Then it started to make sense and the true power, flexibility even 'elegance' of Lua,
if elegance is an adjective you can apply to a computer language, came clear.

I haven't looked back since.

One of the 'telling' experiences happened when I elected to give a guy on the Mach4 forum a hand to code some stuff
to use Modbus comms to his VFD. I'd never used Modbus before so it was a bit of a battle, but we got there in the end
and I learnt a bunch on the way. A month or two later another guy, a Mach3 user wanted a hand to write some Modbus
comms for his VFD. I thought 'how hard can it be?'. I wish I'd stayed clear! The Mach3 Modbus plugin is atrocious, it works
but is confusing as hell. I'm still bemused as to how I got it to work, I did eventually. I swore I would never touch
Mach3 Modbus ever again.

I've had more opportunities to fiddle with Mach4 Modbus and it is just SO much better, all data transfer between
registers etc.

This is a recurring thing with Mach4. A certain thing (like Modbus) can be done in Mach3 and also in Mach4 but the
Mach4 interface is just so far superior. I have found it difficult if not impossible to relate that to Mach3 users
in any way that they will accept.

Craig

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 Threading Hangs
« on: March 30, 2019, 08:29:54 PM »
Hi,
I'm pretty sure that the UC300 supports lathe threading but are you sure it supports G32?
Could it be that the UC300 is expecting G76?

Do you have any documentation from CNCDrive as to exactly what is supported and how?

Craig

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G-Code, CAD, and CAM discussions / Re: WORK OFFSETS
« on: March 30, 2019, 08:02:29 PM »
Hi,
if you declare G54 prior to the first bunch of code it will execute in G54 mode, that is with the G54 offsets
applied.

If you the declare G58 then the following code, your second bunch, operates with the G58 offsets applied.

Craig

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