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CS-Lab / Re: Wiring IP-S outputs - Switched 0V side ? howto

« on: December 04, 2014, 09:06:38 AM »

Hello hanermo,

the resistor should be between 8/20 and pin 21 .

Thomas

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CS-Lab / Re: Wiring IP-S outputs - Switched 0V side ? howto

« on: December 03, 2014, 06:07:26 AM »

Hello,

the 10k resistor is only to pull down the CS-Lab output to 0V.

for the relays i normaly take standard 24VDC industrial relays like this:

http://www.voelkner.de/products/36865/100-xl.jpg

easy to connect, easy to fit and working in thousands applications.

by the way this was worng in my 1st reply:

2. if you want to use only the ENABLE Input connect to Pin8/20 , connect Pin9 to 0V and put a 10k resistor
between both.

should be:
2. if you want to use only the ENABLE Input connect CS Output to Pin8/20 , connect Pin9 to 0V and put a 10k resistor
between both.








Thomas

2143

CS-Lab / Re: Wiring IP-S outputs - Switched 0V side ? howto

« on: December 02, 2014, 03:17:54 AM »

Hello,

there are two possibilities:

1. if you want to use more than the ENABLE Input (Reset Alm) you have to put 24VDC Relays to the outputs
from the IP-S an use the contacts like you have shown in yor second drawing.

2. if you want to use only the ENABLE Input connect to Pin8/20 , connect Pin9 to 0V and put a 10k resistor
between both.

Thomas

2144

General Mach Discussion / Re: Slaved X and A Axis Problem

« on: November 21, 2014, 02:20:46 PM »

Hi,

why dont you rum both sides with the same step/dir signal's (paralell).
ok. referencing is a little bit tricky, but the normal run is 100% sync.

Thomas

2145

CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 21, 2014, 08:14:57 AM »

Hi Arman,

in my machine i have a tool present switch for every toolholder and in the spindle,
it depends on how "save" and "idiotproved" the system should run.

Thomas

2146

CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 21, 2014, 07:34:55 AM »

Hi Arman,

here the modified macro.
modifications:
-no curtain
-no tool present switch

all modifications marked with TPS

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'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'-----------------------------
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' CS-Lab s.c.
' Toolchanger VB macro (MILL - Flat ATC with toolholders on the work table)
' v1.3
' modified  TPS 21.11.2014
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'-----------------------------
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------


'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Digital outputs CONFIG
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Const OUT_OPENCOLLET = 10 ' open collet CSMIO output
Const OUT_CLEANCONE     = 11 ' cone cleaning CSMIO output

'TPS no curtail present
'Const OUT_CURTAIN     = 12 ' raise curtain CSMIO output

'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Digital inputs CONFIG
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Const IN_COLLETCLOSED = 20 ' collet locked sensor CSMIO input
Const IN_COLLETOPENED = 21 ' collet open sensor CSMIO input

'TPS no tool inside sensor present
'Const IN_TOOLINSIDE     = 22 ' tool locked sensor CSMIO input

'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' variables declaration - don't modify
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dim Z_TOOLGET, Z_LIFT, Z_SAFE, X_FORSLIDE, X_LOCK, Y_BASE, Y_TOOLOFFSET, TOOLCOUNT
Dim ToolNew, ToolOld
Dim SoftLimitsState As Boolean

'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' CONFIG data
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Y_TOOLOFFSET = 170.00 ' distance between tools
Y_BASE = 42.93 ' Y position of first tool
Z_TOOLGET = -311.3 ' Z position (abs) of tool get/relase
Z_SAFE = -220 ' Safe Z for safe moving above tool holders
Z_LIFT = 10 ' rise distance for cone cleaning
X_FORSLIDE = -50 ' X position before slide tool into the holder
X_LOCK = -100 ' X position for lock tool into the holder
TOOLCOUNT = 6 ' Max. tool number
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------




'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ' ------------------------
  ' Macro start
  ' ------------------------
'------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  SetUserLED(1001, 1) ' UserLED 1001 - private info, toolchange is in progress
 
' Get the current tool # and new tool #
ToolOld = GetCurrentTool()
ToolNew = GetSelectedTool()

' save softlimits state
If(GetOEMLED(23)) Then
SoftLimitsState = true
Else
SoftLimitsState = false
End If

' turn off softlimits - toolholders can be outside normal work area
SoftLimitsOff

'TPS no curtain
    ' raise the curtain
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, true)


' check are the axes referenced
If GetOEMLed(807) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1003)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message( "Machine is not referenced" )
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If
If GetOEMLed(808) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1003)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message( "Machine is not referenced" )
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If
If GetOEMLed(809) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1003)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message( "Machine is not referenced" )
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If
If GetOEMLed(11) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1003)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message( "Spindle is running. Toolchange failed." )
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If

' Spindle must be turned off for toolchange
If (ToolNew = ToolOld) Then
'TPS no tool present switch
'    If (IsToolInside()) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
Sleep(150)
Message("Tool is already in spindle.")
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
' curtain down
Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
' End If
End If

' New tool # must be <= TOOLCOUNT
If (ToolNew > TOOLCOUNT) Then
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1003)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message("There is no such a tool.")
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If

Code("G0G53 Z0.0") ' Z up to machine '0'
WaitForMove

' if current tool > 0 put it first into the holder
If (ToolOld > 0) Then
' if there is no tool in spindle, skip this part
'TPS no tool present switch
'    If (IsToolInside()) Then
' move to the toolholder
Code("G0G53 X"& X_FORSLIDE &" Y" & (Y_BASE + (Y_TOOLOFFSET * (ToolOld-1))))
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 Z" & Z_TOOLGET)
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 X" & X_LOCK)
WaitForMove
ColletOpen
CleanConeOn
Sleep(1000)
' is collet opened?
If (Not IsColletOpened()) Then
ColletClose
CleanConeOff
Sleep(1000)
Code("G0G53 X"& X_FORSLIDE)
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 Z0")
Code("G0G53 X0Y0")
WaitForMove
SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1021)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message("Can't open collet! Toolchange failed.")
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If
Code("G0G53 Z" & Z_SAFE)
WaitForMove
CleanConeOff
ColletClose
' End If
End If

' If newtool = 0, there is no need to get new tool
If (ToolNew = 0) Then
Code("G0G53 Z0")
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 X0Y0")
WaitForMove
SetCurrentTool( ToolNew )
Message("Tool loaded : " & ToolNew)
Code("G43T" & ToolNew) ' G43 to sync tool length in system
Code("G43H" & ToolNew) ' G43 to sync tool length in system
WaitForMove
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
' restore softlimits
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If

'TPS no tool present switch
    ' Is there no tool in the spindle?
' If (IsToolInside()) Then
' Code("G0G53 Z0")
' Code("G0G53 X0Y0")
' WaitForMove
' SetCurrentTool( ToolOld )
' SetUserLED(1001, 0)
' WaitForMove
' DoOEMButton(1021)
' DoOEMButton(1002)
' Sleep(150)
' Message("Can't get new tool, because other tool is already in spindle!")
' Sleep(150)
' restore softlimits
' SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
' End
' End If

' move to the new tool position
Code("G0G53 X" & X_LOCK &" Y" & (Y_BASE + (Y_TOOLOFFSET * (ToolNew-1))))
WaitForMove
ColletOpen
Sleep(1000)
' check is the collet opened
If (Not IsColletOpened) Then
CleanConeOff
ColletClose

Sleep(1000)
Code("G0G53 X"& X_FORSLIDE)
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 Z0")
Code("G0G53 X0Y0")
WaitForMove

SetCurrentTool( 0 )
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
DoOEMButton(1021)
DoOEMButton(1002)
Sleep(150)
Message("Can't open collet! Toolchange failed!")
Sleep(150)
' restore softlimits
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
End If

' cone cleaning
CleanConeOn
Code("G0G53 Z" & (Z_TOOLGET + Z_LIFT))
Code("G1G53 Z" & Z_TOOLGET & " F3000")
Code("G1G53 Z" & (Z_TOOLGET + Z_LIFT) & " F3000")
Code("G1G53 Z" & Z_TOOLGET & " F1500")
WaitForMove
' colled close
CleanConeOff
Sleep(500)
ColletClose
Sleep(1000)

'TPS no tool presnt switch
    ' check is tool locked?
' If (Not IsToolInside()) Then
' Code("G0G53 X"& X_FORSLIDE)
' WaitForMove
' Code("G0G53 Z0")
' Code("G0G53 X0Y0")
' WaitForMove

' SetCurrentTool( 0 )
' SetUserLED(1001, 0)
' DoOEMButton(1021)
' DoOEMButton(1002)
' Sleep(150)
' Message("Toolchange failed. Tool should be locked!")
' Sleep(150)
' restore softlimits
' SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
' End
' End If

' slide out from toolholder position
Code("G0G53 X" & X_FORSLIDE)
WaitForMove
Code("G0G53 Z0")
WaitForMove
' Go to absolute 0,0
Code("G0G53 X0 Y0")
WaitForMove
 
SetCurrentTool( ToolNew )
Message("Tool Loaded: " & ToolNew)
Code("G43T" & ToolNew) ' G43 to sync tool length in system
Code("G43H" & ToolNew) ' G43 to sync tool length in system
WaitForMove
SetUserLED(1001, 0)
' restore softlimit
SetSoftLimits(SoftLimitsState)
'TPS no curtain
' curtain down
' Call SetCsmioOut (OUT_CURTAIN, false)
End
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Function IsToolInside () As Boolean
If(GetCsmioIn(IN_TOOLINSIDE)) Then
IsToolInside = true
Else
IsToolInside = false
End If
Exit Function
End Function
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Function IsColletOpened () As Boolean
If(GetCsmioIn(IN_COLLETOPENED)) Then
IsColletOpened = true
Else
IsColletOpened = false
End If
Exit Function
End Function
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Function IsColletClosed () As Boolean
If(GetCsmioIn(IN_COLLETCLOSED)) Then
IsColletClosed = true
Else
IsColletClosed = false
End If
Exit Function
End Function
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub ColletClose ()
Call SetCsmioOut(OUT_OPENCOLLET, false)
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub ColletOpen ()
Call SetCsmioOut(OUT_OPENCOLLET, true)
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub CleanConeOn ()
Call SetCsmioOut(OUT_CLEANCONE, true)
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub CleanConeOff ()
Call SetCsmioOut(OUT_CLEANCONE, false)
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub SoftLimitsOff ()
If(GetOEMLED(23)) Then
DoOEMButton(1029)
End If
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub SetSoftLimits (state As Boolean)
If(state) Then
If(GetOEMLED(23) = 0) Then
DoOEMButton(1029)
End If
Else
If(GetOEMLED(23)) Then
DoOEMButton(1029)
End If
End If
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sub WaitForMove ()
While IsMoving()
Sleep(15)
Wend
End Sub
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Function GetCsmioIn (n As Integer) As Boolean
Dim reg As Integer

If(n < 16) Then
reg = 90
Else
reg = 91
n = n - 16
End If

If(GetInBit(reg, n)) Then
GetCsmioIn = true
Else
GetCsmioIn = false
End If
Exit Function
End Function
' -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Sub SetCsmioOut (ByVal n As Integer, ByVal state As Boolean)
If(state) Then
SetOutBit(90, n)
Else
ResetOutBit(90, n)
End If
End Sub
' ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 


Thomas

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 21, 2014, 03:10:32 AM »

Hi,

post the complete macro, and we will see.

Thomas

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 16, 2014, 08:56:55 AM »

Hi,

very impressive machine, looking forward to see it running.


If you are planing your netxt machine, you can also have a look for

SZGH motors and servo controllers
http://www.szghauto.com/ac-servo-motor-and-driver.php

cheap and working good.

Thomas

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 14, 2014, 06:52:10 AM »

Hi,

had a quick look to the delta manual.
for my understanding P1-00 should be :    1042

Thomas

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO/IP-S vs DELTA ASDA-B2

« on: November 14, 2014, 06:36:20 AM »

Hi,

drives are set to position control mode and right signals for pulse an dir ?

i am not so familiar with the delta drives, never had one.

Thomas