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1891

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 19, 2015, 09:21:46 AM »

Ok,

sounds good.

Thomas

1892

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 19, 2015, 08:55:10 AM »

Ok let's try and error

please change

'look for OEMTRIG1
If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then

to

'look for OEMTRIG1
If IsActive(OEMTRIG1) = False Then

should be the same put try please.

Thomas

1893

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 19, 2015, 08:25:42 AM »

Hi,

next try, the problem is i have no real trigger to lock the stop dog

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 19.10.2015  
' Toolchange for a 8 place turret (single step)
' V 5.0.1
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If


tryagain:

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()


   Akttime = Timer
   While Akttime - Starttime < 50 'try until timeout

    ActivateSignal(OutPut5)  'unlocks stop dog
    Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
    ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on
    Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
    DeActivateSignal(OutPut5)    'locks stop dog
    Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
    DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
    Sleep(1000)

    'check the position
    If GetTurret() = tool Then
       GoTo finished
    End If   
       
    Akttime = Timer
    If Akttime - Starttime > 40 Then 'Timeout 20s
       Message("Turret timeout")
       DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
       Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
       DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
       End 
    End If
   Wend 
   
finished:

   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If  GetTurret() <> tool then 
        GoTo tryagain
   End If


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
    SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret position
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function

Thomas

1894

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 19, 2015, 04:42:07 AM »

Ok,

her the first try of the "single step" version

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 18.10.2015  
' Toolchange for a 8 place turret (single step)
' V 5.0.0
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If

Dim StopDog as boolean

tryagain:

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()


   Akttime = Timer
   While Akttime - Starttime < 40 'try until timeout

    ActivateSignal(output5)  'unlocks stop dog
    StopDog = True
    Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
    ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on

   'wenn we left the turretpos lock the stop dog
    If GetTurret() = 0 Then
       DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
       StopDog = false
    End if 

    If ((GetTurret() <> 0) and (StopDog = False)) Then
       DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
       sleep(1000)
    End if

    'check the position
    If GetTurret() = tool Then
       GoTo finished
    End If   
       
    Akttime = Timer
    If Akttime - Starttime > 30 Then 'Timeout 20s
       Message("Turret timeout")
       DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
       Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
       DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
       End 
    End If
   Wend 
   
finished:

   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If  GetTurret() <> tool then 
        GoTo tryagain
   End If


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
    SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret position
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function

Thomas

1895

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 19, 2015, 04:29:46 AM »

Hi Mike,

by reviewing the script i found a mistake,
pls try corrected code again.

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 18.10.2015  
' Toolchange for a 8 place turret
' V 4.0.1
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If

 
Dim NextTurretPos As Long
NextTurretPos = 0

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()

tryagain:

   ActivateSignal(output5)  'unlocks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
   ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on
   
   While NextTurretPos <> tool 'turn until we are in the wright position
      NextTurretPos = GetNextTurret()

      'give the other inputs a chance
      If NextTurretPos <> 0 Then
        Sleep(50)
        NextTurretPos = GetNextTurret() 'read NextTurretpos again 
      End if
      
      Akttime = Timer
      If Akttime - Starttime > 20 Then 'Timeout 20s
        Message("Turret timeout")
        DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
        Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
        DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
        End 
      End If
   Wend 
   
   DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
   DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
   sleep(1000)


   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If  GetTurret() <> tool then 
        GoTo tryagain
   End If


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
   SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret position
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function
    

'function to get the next actual turret position
Function GetNextTurret() As Long
	GetNextTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 8
    End If
    
    If GetNextTurret = 8 Then
        GetNextTurret = 1
    Else    
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 1
    End If
    
End Function

Thomas

1896

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 18, 2015, 12:50:41 PM »

Ok Mike,

depending on the fact, that i am getting older
some processes of thinking taking more time.

so the function GetTurretpos() has got a little brother
witch is called GetNextTurretPos() witch will bring us
the possibility to touch the "brake" early enough to stop
in the wright position.

here the code:

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 18.10.2015  
' Toolchange for a 8 place turret
' V 4.0.0
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If

 
Dim NextTurretPos As Long
NextTurretPos = 0

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()

tryagain:

   ActivateSignal(output5)  'unlocks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
   ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on
   
   While NextTurretPos <> tool 'turn until we are in the wright position
      NextTurretPos = GetNextTurret()

      'give the other inputs a chance
      If ActTurretPos <> 0 Then
        Sleep(50)
        NextTurretPos = GetNextTurret() 'read NextTurretpos again 
      End if
      
      Akttime = Timer
      If Akttime - Starttime > 20 Then 'Timeout 20s
        Message("Turret timeout")
        DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
        Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
        DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
        End 
      End If
   Wend 
   
   DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
   DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
   sleep(1000)


   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If  GetTurret() <> tool then 
        GoTo tryagain
   End If


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
   SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret position
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function
    

'function to get the next actual turret position
Function GetNextTurret() As Long
	GetNextTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 8
    End If
    
    If GetNextTurret = 8 Then
        GetNextTurret = 1
    Else    
        GetNextTurret = GetNextTurret + 1
    End If
    
End Function

regards Thomas

1897

General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach 3 utter bollox

« on: October 18, 2015, 11:29:00 AM »

Quote from: crozjota on October 18, 2015, 10:23:47 AM

3, ... ive had enough of this product!

so why should somebody give answers for 1. and 2.

regards Thomas

1898

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 18, 2015, 11:20:46 AM »

made small modification,
because if tool = 8 then turretpos must be 1

else tool must be turretpos-1

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 09.10.2015  
' simple Test for Toolchange 
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If

 
Dim ActTurretPos As Long
ActTurretPos = 0

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()

tryagain:

   ActivateSignal(output5)  'unlocks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
   ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on
   
   While ActTurretPos <> tool 'turn until we are in the wright position
      ActTurretPos = GetTurret()

      'give the other inputs a chance
      If ActTurretPos <> 0 Then
        Sleep(50)
        ActTurretPos = GetTurret() 'read Turretpos again 
      End if
      
      Akttime = Timer
      If Akttime - Starttime > 20 Then 'Timeout 20s
        Message("Turret timeout")
        DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
        Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
        DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
        End 
      End If
   Wend 
   
   DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
   DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
   sleep(1000)


   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If tool <> 8 then 
      If  (GetTurret()-1) <> tool then ' from tool is 1-7 toolno -1
	goto tryagain
      End If
   Else
      If  GetTurret() <> 1 then ' if tool = 8 then turretpos must be 1
	goto tryagain
      End If
   End If  


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
   SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret positiom
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function

1899

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 18, 2015, 09:02:00 AM »

ok with recheck and retry, not tested

Code: [Select]

Sub Main()
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' TPS 09.10.2015  
' simple Test for Toolchange 
' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

' pin2 is mapped to Input1
' pin3 is mapped to Input2
' pin4 is mapped to Input3
' pin5 is mapped to Input4
' charger seated is mapped to OEMTRIG1

'get the new tool ---------------------------------------------------------------
tool = GetSelectedTool()

' nothing to do
If GetSelectedTool() = GetCurrentTool() Then
     message("Tool is the same NO tool change needed")
   End
End If
 
If  tool > 8 Or tool < 1 Then 'check tool number to be in range
    Message (" Tool " & tool & " is not a valid Number 1-8 ONLY, ENDING Program RUN ")
    DoButton(3)
    End
End If

 
Dim ActTurretPos As Long
ActTurretPos = 0

'get actual starttime
Starttime = Timer

Message "Moving to Tool# " &GetselectedTool()

tryagain:

   ActivateSignal(output5)  'unlocks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)              'wait for a second 
   ActivateSignal(OutPut6)  'turn air motor on
   
   While ActTurretPos <> tool 'turn until we are in the wright position
      ActTurretPos = GetTurret()

      'give the other inputs a chance
      If ActTurretPos <> 0 Then
        Sleep(50)
        ActTurretPos = GetTurret() 'read Turretpos again 
      End if
      
      Akttime = Timer
      If Akttime - Starttime > 20 Then 'Timeout 20s
        Message("Turret timeout")
        DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
        Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
        DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
        End 
      End If
   Wend 
   
   DeActivateSignal(output5)    'locks stop dog
   Sleep(1000)                  'wait for a second 
   DeActivateSignal(OutPut6)    'turn air motor off
   sleep(1000)


   'recheck the turretpos and retry
   If  (GetTurret()-1) <> tool then
	goto tryagain
   End If


    'look for OEMTRIG1
    If Not IsActive(OEMTRIG1) Then
        DOButton(3)
        MsgBox("Tool changer not seated!")
        End
    End If    

    Message("Tool " & tool & " Loaded")
   SetCurrentTool( tool )
   
End Sub

  

'function to get the actual turret positiom
Function GetTurret() As Long
	GetTurret = 0
    If IsActive(Input1) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 1
    End If
    
    If IsActive(Input2) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 2
    End If

    If IsActive(Input3) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 4
    End If

    If IsActive(Input4) Then
        GetTurret = GetTurret + 8
    End If
    
End Function

1900

General Mach Discussion / Re: CNC Lathe turret tool changer help?

« on: October 18, 2015, 08:15:39 AM »

try to reduce:

'give the other inputs a chance
If ActTurretPos <> 0 Then
Sleep(200)
ActTurretPos = GetTurret() 'read Turretpos again
End if

to Sleep(50)