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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 19, 2015, 09:15:47 AM »
I started a post about migrating from mach to UCCNC at cnczone if anyone is interested.



General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 09:37:20 PM »
Hiya derek, I just did some more testing and there is a great deal of the Gocde side that does NOT work (;-)  #vars ,G41/42, G31 would not run in demo,there are many Gcode programs here that will not even LOAD but run fine in Mach3.

I agree there is a time when you have to move on or starve.

Let me know when it is a good time to drop by.  I would like to work with the UCcnc more to rattle the bones around.

I looked at the macro side and he made it MORE difficult than it really needs to be. Too much non human verbage in the script language BUT that is programmers for ya.

It is REALLY going to depend on IF Balaz is agreeable to changes for the better to make it MORE mainstream CNC compatible Gcode wise. It looks VERY EMCish in nature.
(;-) TP

(;-) TP

Well I didn't think that G41/42 worked very well in mach 3 anyway so I never used it. He has probing macros that call G31 so that must work.

I think Balazs main initial market is probably the hobby CNC crowd. But the fact that they implemented rigid tapping shows that they must have an eye towards power users like me who are running the UC-300.  I'm in the catbird seat because UCCNC will do everything I need on the 2 routers right now. If I can  get some probing macros, an expanded tool table and a new ATC macro  I can run it on my mills.

At least if 2 of my 4 machines are't driving me crazy I've reduced it by 50 percent:)

General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 09:08:01 PM »


Here's the wording on the website:

Mach4 Hobby – A full featured software version to be marketed toward those interested in using CNC machinery for their own personal /non-business use. End-user support is limited to e-mail and online forums. Add-ons, expandability, and updates will be available. This version is the direct replacement for Mach3. The price is $200.

Hmmm, that seems to very clearly state non-business use. What am I missing.


Probably that most people will look at that as a "suggested use" as opposed to a hard line in the sand. If they really think people are going to pay 10 times the cost for commercial use they are really delusional. I imagine most people will buy the 200.00 version and do what ever the hell they want to with it.

General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 08:57:40 PM »
I just pulled out the notes where I tested it in the past AND it is a VERY basic controller software  no where NEAR as functional as Mach3.  IF all you cut were very basic shapes with cam generated Gcode maybe.  Programs are very slow to load what loads in M3 in 2 secs takes 30 sec in UCcnc. The toolpath panning is terrible compared to mach3 etc,etc. NOT SAYING it cold not be fixed but WILL it get fixed ??

I would not be in too big of a hurry to jump from the frying pan into the fire. There would be needed a LOT of FUNCTIONAL testing needed to confirm the UCcnc.

(;-) TP

I loaded up one of my larger patterns. Right around 150,000 lines of code and didn't have any noticeable issues with it loading. This was the newest version though. I only do cam so the lack of wizards isn''t an issue for me. I did notice there is a cam tab plugin but I didn't even click on it. I never really use the tool path display because controlling it in mach was always a hassle for me.

I'm going to be carving a straight 6 valve cover pattern next week so that should be a decent test. Maybe you can come up when I get it loaded and you can see it running.

I agree that for some people mach3 still may be a better choice but for me I'm over it. I have to start going in a direction away from Mach and I may as well see if this will work for me considering I have 4 of his controllers:)

General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 12:35:42 PM »
I've got 2 UC-100 and 2 UC-300 controllers. I have UCCNC software on one router and so far I am very happy with it. There are a couple of things that I have to get used to but the motion is much smoother and accurate than Mach3 with the UC-100 plugin. I'm buying another license for my other router that has a UC-100. That will be the real test as it has a lot of weight on the gantry and a better trajectory planner would really be helpful.  There are two things holding me back on running it on my two mills with the UC-300's. I'm totally hooked on the Calypso ventures screen set with the probing functions. I can't tell you how much that has helped my work flow. The other is I have a couple of fairly complex macros in VB that would need to be converted to C#. I know virtually nothing about either VB or C#.

I feel the UCCNC is geared towards the hobby crowd right now. As was Master5 when I first got on the Artsoft train. I've tried to encourage Balazs to start a forum so that users can start exchanging ideas and helping the software mature. There is an area on cnczone with a little bit of traffic but not too much.  Honestly the software just needs a couple of more things and it would be awesome. It's good enough to do rigid (ish?) tapping right now.  It only has a 20 tool tool table so that's a bit of a problem, and the tool length setting could be a little more elegant.

Sorry for the ramble but I'm so tired of screwing around and waving chicken bones and throwing the blood of virgins on my Mach3 machines every morning to get them to run it's making me crazy:)


General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 not for sale in a year or so ???
« on: July 16, 2015, 06:05:15 AM »
I think the $1000.00 to $2000.00 is to cover support. If you want a Mach3 replacement you're looking at $200.00

I think they are missing the mark on their support plan though. You should buy the program and then pay for support as a secondary item. I may need 10 minutes  but someone else needs an hour, yet we both pay $1000.00?

When you run the code is the feed rate the same as the jog speed? Sometimes a machine will be binding at low speeds but seem to be fine at a higher rate because the speed increase gets above the chug.

That wasn't very eloquent but I'm sure you get my meaning:)

General Mach Discussion / Re: Future of Mach3 ??
« on: July 13, 2015, 06:23:22 AM »
Here is a video of it laser engraving.

I don't know if that applies to what you are doing but it's pretty cool nonetheless.

General Mach Discussion / Re: Future of Mach3 ??
« on: July 11, 2015, 10:25:47 PM »
I wonder if the UC100 can handle the M10/11 commands.

Yes it can. At least according to the manual.

General Mach Discussion / Re: Future of Mach3 ??
« on: July 11, 2015, 05:28:21 PM »
I'm running a UC-100 and the UCCNC motion control software on a slaved axis router with no issues. My problems are more of a work flow mach vs UCCNC. UCCNC has a conversion program that takes your mach config file and writes the settings to the UCCNC config. That saves a ton of time.

At least with the UCCNC software the spindle turns on every time:)

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