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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: Got My mill running :)
« on: April 18, 2006, 02:30:19 AM »
That is totally amazing.....

Well impressive !

Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 17, 2006, 04:17:20 PM »
Well it looks like Mr Bean & Myself got a bit carried away last night. Nothing better than those 4am sessions....  :)

Ballendo, I guess that screensets are every much a personal thing. I look back at our original post and hope that the later screens have not gone too 'Arty' as this is certainly not our intension. Apart from the brushed panel look not a lot else changed.

The original screen used more than 50 seperate graphics and on my main PC which is 3Ghz + I didn't see any change in screen updates. On some lower spec machines I have I did find them not as responsive although I would say it was acceptable.

I'm afraid the single bitmap background and hotspots makes it so easier to develop. In our case we split the work with myself generating the button graphics and the screen 4 settings. Mr Bean did the hard work doing the background panels with cutouts for the button icons and generated a lot of themes. It worked well, MSN allowed us to chat the design through and the new MSN 8 beta has a superb feature of folder sharing allowing us to syncronise our work effortlessly. (The MSN 8 Beta is a closed one but I do have some spare invites if anyone would like one. It has some good new features).

Our aim for the 1st screen we would release is 1024*768 and would follow the original screen that is bundled with Mach 3. Nothing radical at this stage to rock the boat. Hopefully we are on track to do this.

Unfortunately as you say the method for screen producing now does not really lend itself to tweaks or changes when released.

We are not using RealDraw. The unfinished .set for Mach Blue was abandoned. I don't think I have a copy of it either but I will take a look.

If you post some ideas or layouts that you would like we could always try and adopt a screen for you.


Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 16, 2006, 10:20:02 PM »
Well I'm out screens I can post with some hope of pulling back some credability......

Please Beano..... Think of the reputation..... ;)

Well thats about it from the Laurel & Hardy boys. After creating these screens I now appreciate the work that you do  on the screens you produce Benny. Our screens have been created over a few night MSN sessions and splitting the work up makes it so much easier. Hopefully we have your attention now Art and maybe you could do a couple of fixes /  requests for us on Screen4. It's either that or you never know what creation Beano will produce.... Trust me I've seen some of them...... ;) Mach Pink is only a taster of what he can create......

Benny, You have more experience than anyone with Screen 4. How about a thread where we can list any issues or future proposals.. i.e how on earth do you move a really small LED around. It seems impossible to get it to move when really small.


Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 16, 2006, 10:10:46 PM »
Well It's MachSteelBlue from me.....

I know it's getting a bit late in the night Beano.. Are you suffering from sleep depravation ?

I cannot belive you posted our pink theme..... You promised not too :)

Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 16, 2006, 09:54:55 PM »

You said it was cough medicine you were taking......

Have you checked your monitor calibration ???

I think the Alpha layer has gone a bit wrong :)

Benny, my reference to the 'dumb screenshots' was only to confirm that we are actually creating a working screen. Some of the images we will be posting may not actually reflect this :)  We may get diverted on the way but the end result will be a screen we hope people like.

Ermm.... How about MachSilver

Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 16, 2006, 09:45:02 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

Well your true personality is shining through that screenset Mr Bean.....

I thought you had a high pitched voice....

I'll try and salvage some credability for us with a Manly MachBlack Post !

Works in progress / Re: An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 16, 2006, 09:34:49 PM »
I'm pleased you clarifed that Mr Bean..... You sound like a bloke but since I haven't met you I wasn't quite sure :)

Anyway it's another late night and the pair of us are burning the midnight oil messing around with some Mach screen concepts.

The Original Mach Blue screen has been pushed aside while we thrash around some other ideas. The images shown below are not just dumb screenshots they are actually working screens from the 1st page in Mach3. Over the next few nights we plan to bash out the remaining pages.

So here they are. The usage of layers has allowed many styles to be experimented with.......

So here is the first of a few shots.

Lets call this one..... MachDarkBlue

Hey Benny,

I have to agree with Sid, you cannot call it a day yet. Your screen postings were the motivation behind my attempt.

I'm not sure why your not getting the feedback deserved on the latest screenset. It looks damn impressive and combines a lot of functions.

Hang on in....

In fact it wasn't until I examined the construction of your set that I noticed the one image background trick. Quite a nifty idea ! and seems to work well with the button animations etc. Actually as this is my first attempt with screen designer I now understand the various posts that you have made requiring changes and additions to the designer. Oh bring on Z levels !!! and that almighty cure to the white line below text boxes....
Keep banging Art's door on this....

The reason for my original post was really to reflect on the multiple image route I used rather than the one. On reflection as you say there shouldn't be a lot more work to combine these images to a single panel and use the Hotspot method although the plan was to retire MachBlue to a "could of been".

Will speak to my partner in crime Mr Bean and see what can be done....


Works in progress / An unfinished screen set - "Mach Blue"
« on: April 09, 2006, 07:08:30 PM »

After seeing Benny's exotic screensets I thought I'd have a bash at making one. Well it was more of a joint effort with Mr Bean and something to do late at night...

Firstly I was learning Screen 4 and secondly I have no artistic talent.

But more dissapointingly I think our method  creating the screen is wrong. The buttons are all individual graphics. I have a decent PC so have not noticed any speed problem but I see the later screens appearing have one graphic with defined 'hotspots'.

Is this the new way to go ?

I have discovered some of the bugs and limitations of screen4 on the way and hope to see these fixed soon. i.e LED states not correct on loading.

The attachement is for a 1024*768 screen although the bottom section would need to change as the actual graphic is larger than this and I forgot about the task bar and title bar  ;D

I call this screen Mach Blue..... Because...... It's Blue........

Forgot to say it was work in progress but is now about to be abandoned......

Please ignore the comment on font sizes above. I needed to change the font to the new one and restart for it to look ok.  ::)

The font on the program limit page is very small however and the G-Code text display is really hard to read.

If I use 1MACHLED.ttf for the DRO's only then use arial narrow on labels and code things are better.

Cheers !

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