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Mach3 under Vista / Re: Newbee needs help
« on: September 11, 2010, 06:20:49 PM »
I typically set up Port 1 to drive the machine. Then if you need more I/O use Port 2. You don't need to worry about the port address, just make sure that the port is enabled as the SS plug-in may look at that. You have your EStop set up on Port 1 Pin 10. Do you have any sort of EStop input wired up?

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Mach3 under Vista / Re: Newbee needs help
« on: September 11, 2010, 02:09:17 PM »
Sorry Phil, I'm running behind. Since your using Port 2 on the SS you need to set the motor outputs to Port 2. The right most two columns set the port for the Step and Direction signals. Change them from '1' to '2'.

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Mach3 under Vista / Re: Newbee needs help
« on: September 05, 2010, 09:13:46 PM »
I've done this several times actually. When you plug-in a USB device, even if the driver is not successfully installed it will show up in Device Manager. While there is no driver loaded yet you can go through the 'update driver' procedure just fine. I'm not sure what problem your seeing with the driver installer not seeing the driver 'inf'  files. It might be that Vista has blocked them as they were downloaded. I've had that happen on one particular file, not related to SS, that was hard to figure out. If you right click on the file and select properties you should be able to see if it is blocked or not.

If you still have trouble just drop me a line at birt_j@soigeneris.com and perhaps we can arrange a time where I can remote into your computer so we can both see what is happening at the same time.

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Mach3 under Vista / Re: Newbee needs help
« on: September 05, 2010, 06:49:34 PM »
Look on page 6 of the Installation Tips guide, toward the bottom and follow the directions for upgrading a driver: http://www.soigeneris.com/Document/Installing_and_Configuring_the_SmoothStepper.pdf Vista and Windows make it a bit harder to manually specify a driver to manually but once you learn the trick it is pretty easy.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Smoothstepper and probing, home and THC
« on: September 04, 2010, 07:19:03 PM »
Some folks have no interest in civlized conversations or facts they just want to bash others, how sad...

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General Mach Discussion / Re: SERVO motor
« on: September 04, 2010, 02:57:04 PM »
So if you apply +2V it rotates one direction, -2V it rotates the other direction, but only at 0V there is no power applied to motor? Does your driver have a 'coast' mode or something?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: SERVO motor
« on: September 04, 2010, 02:22:38 PM »
This could be because you don't have the drive enabled, the drive is not seeing proper feedback from the encoder and shuts down, etc. Any LED indicators on your drive?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: SERVO motor
« on: September 04, 2010, 01:47:43 PM »
Hi Amir,

Here is a good thread on CNCZone that explains the different types of servo control: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66964

Your motors/drivers will likely work fine but you will need a controller that can convert S/D signals to analog. I have used a Galil card for this purpose, but KFlop and others also may work.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Smoothstepper and probing, home and THC
« on: September 04, 2010, 01:23:27 PM »
My last post was in response to this statement:

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in fact convert to serial, and this can cause slow speed.
in ARM processor ,This feature is embedded in the controller, and this is their strength

When I sent the post you had already posted simpson36, when I tried to modify my response with the text so denoted below I found the forum was down for a few minutes. My response to Amir was relevant to his comments.

As to your question about latency is an issue with any form of communication. Inside the PC much of the communication is synchronous, the signals are sent and received in time with a shared clock (there are different clock sources for different things.) With the parallel port driver the latency between when the driver should be called by the OS and when it actually is called is the issue. With an external motion control device operating over USB or Ethernet, which are both synchronous forms of communication (no shared clock), latency comes from the nature of the communication system itself and is much more variable. External motion controls have built in hardware to generate the step/direction signals and respond to time critical things like limit switches or probing. Since the time critical stuff is done in dedicated hardware you get better performance, but anything requiring a 'real time' interaction with the PC will have a split second lag.


This section is what I tried to post before:
simpson36, I'm never looking for a fight.  :-\ I was trying to use an emoticon  ::) to show that. I guess I must come across much differently than I intend to. You said you did not know much about the SmoothStepper and made an incorrect assumption and I tried to point out the irony whilst correcting misinformation. It was not meant to be offensive, sorry it made you feel otherwise.
My last post was in response to this:

Your original post made assumptions that were just not factual, such as the SmoothStepper not being a 'real' USB device. That is like saying device that uses a RS232 to TTL level translator chip is not a real RS232 serial device. Most Ethernet devices use an external Ethernet chip, does that not make them real? My point was that the functionality of a bus translator is the same no matter if it is built into a uC or a separate device. It dose not make it any more or less real or lead to any loss of speed or functionality.

There is some of the parallel port functionality that the SS does not yet emulate, and as you said I've been one of the first one to mention that fact. I also sell them as you say but I try to cover the benefits and drawbacks of all the items I purvey; I like folks to be able to make an informed decision. I do not appreciate the personal insult against my character by you suggesting otherwise, that is uncalled for. I spend a great deal of my time trying to help other folks on forums, in email and by phone, and I don't get a dime for it 99.9% of the time. I do it because I like to help other folks have a good time learning about CNC.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Smoothstepper and probing, home and THC
« on: September 04, 2010, 12:19:32 PM »
Well, in fact USB is serial, and so is Ethernet, using a serial connection in and of itself does not say anything about the potential data rate. If you'll look at the FTDI chip on the SS you'll find it is a parallel FIFO.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass guys, just trying to dispel myths.