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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 14, 2014, 08:07:45 AM »
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GUYS all this IS great, it really is BUT that idea of having a CNC controller is for the CONTROLLER  to provide ALL the normal CNC machine functions without having to learn a new high order programming language and create the needed functions.

This is one of the failings of Linux/EMC . Most new generation or Jobshop operators need/want to cut parts NOT work on the machine all the time trying to get it to work correctly without a programming degree.

I think the main issue here (at least I hope it is) is that the version of Mach4 that we're seeing are still quite a long way away from being a finished product. When it's released for sale, everything needs to work properly, including default hotkeys. If everything's not working, Mach4 will be a failure. I think we all expected Mach4 to be much further along than it appears to be, but it is what it is. All we can do is wait at this point.

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My thought was to have MACH4 come out with a good 4 axis workable screen set AND have the screen editor as an optional program for those that choose/need to do it.  That lowers the  cost of MACH4 for the hobby side and creates a second tier profit center for the Screen editor as an option.

This is a tricky area. Because Mach is such a universal control, used on many different types of machines, a single "good" screenset is a bit of a compromise. You also have to consider that a huge plus for Mach3 has always been the ability to customize screens. Taking that option away, or charging more for it, would be a step backwards for Mach4, and is not really an option, imo.


I think you need to realize that you're not seeing the finished product, which needs to be much better than it's current state. People need to be able to use it out of the box, as is.
Mach4 is definitely going to be much more difficult to customize (especially with no manuals as Brian has hinted at :( ), but that's a byproduct of the increased flexibility and power. If you don't like, it, you can always use one of those other controls that don't let you customize it. Not everyone is going to like everything about Mach4. There are certainly things that I don't like. But at the end of the day, it'll hopefully still be the best option formost of us. If not, we'll move on to something else.


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General Mach Discussion / Re: codes manual
« on: May 13, 2014, 08:08:09 PM »
Try the Mach3 manual.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 13, 2014, 08:14:29 AM »
Can you run two copies of Mach4 and copy from one to the other?

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 10:00:17 PM »
I saw the pageid=0, but didn't know how it was being used.

And yes, after reading your post, I saw that there were only 7 .scr (methods? functions?)

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:35:41 PM »
Is there a list of the .scr calls somewhere?

This is going to be very painful without documentation.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:07:52 PM »
Yes, read my previous posts. There are pages, just like Mach3.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 08:41:29 PM »
I asked Brian on the Yahoo group. Waiting to hear back.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 07:00:04 PM »
OK, I figured out a little bit about the Pages (not tabs).

Default, is the background page, and everything placed on Default will display on every page.
Changing pages from a button is actually very easy.
Add multiple pages, and when you add a button, and click on its Events (lightning bolt), there's a GoTo Page option, which lets you select the page to go to.

I don't know the Lua call to change pages, which I think Terry's looking for?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Pc recommendations for Mach3
« on: May 12, 2014, 12:58:52 PM »
When Mach3 is running a program, you should not do ANYTHING on the PC, except click Feedhold, or Stop.
Running other programs will almost always cause issues. Even clicking in Mach3's toolpath can cause issues on some PC's.
If you want to run V-Carve Pro while the machine is running, get an external motion controller like a Smoothstepper. ut I'd still recommend using a separate design PC.

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: ScreenSet Question
« on: May 12, 2014, 07:18:10 AM »
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I'm guessing that this is what Gerry actually meant to say. ? ? ?

No, I was talking about pages like in Mach3, not tabs. With tabs, you have Terry's original issue, where anything not in the tab control is always on the screen. Sometimes desirable, sometimes not.

I haven't really dug into the screen designer at all, but I'm assuming you can adda button to change pages, exactly the way that Mach3 works. (Just not as easy :) )

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