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Mach4 General Discussion / Read write to a DRO ??
« on: May 30, 2014, 03:06:56 PM »
How would one read or write to a USER DRO on the screen.

I need to read a #var(I can do that) and update an onscreen DRO(dro18)  . That part I cannt do as I do not find any langeage to create the function.

In mach3 it would be    SetUserDRO(18,  GetVar(590))

ALSO same the otherway around. I need to update a #var(#590) from  DRO value of (DRO18)

in Mach3 it would be SetVar(590, GetUserDro(18))

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 30, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »
Surely you jest. That is NOTHING as to what I asked.

On the screen there is a DRO(Dro18) I need to link it to update #var #590 with the value in the DRO. It should do the update WHEN I modify the DRO automatically. I see in the screen there are options as to allow that but I have no idea what the script should be like. "on update" I believe

ALSO IF I update #590 through a #590 =987654 then I need it to UPDATE the DRO on the screen(DRO18). AND there looks to be a function in the ScreenDRO to do that with script. "On Modify"

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 30, 2014, 02:21:36 PM »
Example Please (;-)

(;-) TP

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 30, 2014, 12:11:12 PM »
IN Mach3 we had a group of #vars that were cross linked to DROs. If you updated the #Var it updated the DRO, IF you updated the DRO it updated the #VAR.

IF Mach4 can do this NOW please explain HOW to do it.

(;-) TP

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 30, 2014, 10:50:17 AM »
SImpson I am a BIT more optomistic about Mach4. FIRST I look at the GCODE side. THAT is the MOST important PART of mach4 you can have. AND it works very very well and with just a few bug fixes it will be great. Mach4 NOW does every thing GCODE wise that one needs to have to do GOOD CNC work AT the HOBBY or industrial  LEVEL and this IS the hobby version we are playing with.

As to suggestions (;-) YOU ASKED FOR THEM SO YOU GET THEM.

Basically because as Steve said it is all one large package of code and the license sets the usage of the features.  In that line of thinking then YES it is going to need features created for industrial that most HOBBY users will never use BUT it still requires those features to be created.  AND also as STEVE said yo have NO IDEA how it will be used by the USERS. When you get people like me I will beat it 12 ways to Sunday JUST to see what it can and cannot do. There are as meany ways to do things as there are hairs on your head out in the real world. THAT is when you find all the ODDs things you never thing about people doing with it.

AND yes I am classed as ODD, no dought. BUT I also WILL get the job done one way or another.

The updates to the tool table WILL benifit BOTH sides as MORE AND MORE users are going to ATC as ATCs are being developed for the DIY side.

NOW My suggestions for the Tool table are to suport BOTH ATC and NON ATC users alike. The actual  ATC function code is normally done in ladder but COULD be done in LUA as there is NO dought that LUA is fast but is it integrated fully yet ????  I see a lot of errors go unchallenged and no error messages and no responce from Mach4 other than just crashing out. So yes there is a LOT of work ahead but I think it has started to go downhill now as things are getting fixed/improved.

Take the Mcode problem if it gets fixed properly(and it WILL get fixed) it will be NICE and very usefull. Most don't realize JUST how usefull that will be .  You will be able to create what amounts to you OWN Gcode canned cycle functions and have them available with a simple M202 call. The acutal MOTION code would be in SUB/macro format so it is EASY to support/change.  That is IF they get the Gcode Editor fixed so we can write gcode SUBS/MACROS easily. (;-)

Just a note a Tool changer program in ladder than runs the physical tool changer is NOT 10,000 lines of ladder code maybe 100-200 lines or more depending on the complexity of the tool changer.

As to the developement TIME frame I came into the MACH group about MIDWAY in. It was Art and friends doing ALL the work. I think we drove Art a bit crazy because he went at it like a mad man. (that is a good thing).  As to Mach4 and the available resources they are going to have to either spend at LOT of MONEY(hiring MORE people, not always a good thing)   OR spend a lot more TIME to get it all done.  AND yes time is money but you cannot preload a small company with TONS of developement dedt and expect it to survive in the long run.

I can also say without doubtt that the MACH group is the NICEST and MOST TALENTED group one could EVER hope to work with PERIOD.   SO far there is LITTLE in the MACH realm that they cannot create an ANSWER for to your problem about Mach3. I don't think Mach4 wiil be much different but there fewer Players now than before.

Bringing out a NEW CNC control today is NOT like when Art brought out MACH1/2/3 . Today there are MANY PC based CNC controllers that can DO the CNC CONTROLLER job as good or better than Mach3 and have more features to boot.

That is NOT saying that MACH4 should not be developed. Just that you have to look at things differently than we did in MACH3..

OnlY TIME will telll the REST of the story.  Just FIX the Gcode side bugs while you wait PLEASE.

(;-) TP




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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: MACH4 Mcode testing
« on: May 30, 2014, 03:24:50 AM »
OK seeing how Mcodes and multi line Gcode does not work HERE on my PC I figure out a way to Break the 6 digit s/n into 6 individual numbers to engrave the Serial Numer via a sub routine in Gcode.

DOn't need no stinkin LUA now   :o  ;D


PS but it would be nice when LUA gets to working right HERE.

(;-) TP

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Mach3 through Command line in Windows
« on: May 30, 2014, 03:20:05 AM »
IF the VB script is always the same you can create a Mcode from the script and then Call that Mcode from the Initiation line on start up.  When you open Mach3 it automatically will load and run the Mcode.

Just a thought(;-) TP

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 30, 2014, 12:39:24 AM »
I was hoping for a modern tool table with Tool changer support built in. Each tool that was IN the TC you assign it a slot number and the M6 calls the slot# OR if there is no slot# assigned top that tool  then call the TOOL #(For a manual change out.

THat way you load all the tools into the tool table then assign the tools you need in the TC a SLOT#

easy peasy  for the operator

Also 2 more tool table inputs     ToolLifeHRS   ,   ToolUsageHRS  Used for tracking usage and tool Life Management To be developed later on or by user

(;-) TP

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: Mach 4 Feature Request
« on: May 29, 2014, 10:38:57 PM »
Tool Length measurement function  Gcode or Mcode .

(;-) TP

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: MACH4 Mcode testing
« on: May 29, 2014, 10:10:35 PM »
Thanks  Scott, that clears that up(;-)

(;-) TP

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