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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Wrong feed rate
« on: September 13, 2010, 09:43:22 AM »
There were feedrate issues in mach 3.43.19 - recommend that you update to 3.43.22 - is has solved the feed rate issue for others.
Also best to update MSM to Beta 10 (0.3.14). The MSM level (beta 9 vs beta 10) won't matter with respect to the feed rate issue, but you might as well have the other minor fixes that come with Beta 10.
Dave

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Touch off
« on: September 12, 2010, 08:33:14 PM »
Alan,

... when I click on the arrow Set Z Zero nothing happens ....

That's not what I'm seeing - Let's walk thru an example to see where what you see differs from what I'm experiencing.

The example I'll construct can be done in sim mode - that way I don't have to worry about imperial / metric units or what the working envelope of your machine is.

1) fire up mach 3.43.22 with MSM 0.3.14 (Beta 10), get it ready (out of estop)
go to the reference page - the MSM Verizon shown is "Version 0.3.13 (Beta 10)" - correct?
Menu - help - about - mach version = "Version R3.043.022" - correct?

set up the gage block height
2) go to settings-common page.
3) set Gage/Plate Height DRO = 0.5

set up the MT params
3) I'll use T251 as the MT number for this example
4) go to the Tooling page
5)  master Tool Mode options panel:
    set this option combination:
        TC Auto TCP OFF
        Master T Mode ON
        TC Auto TLO OFF
        RH T-Holders OFF
        Master Tool #: DRO = 251
        Master PTL: 2.0

we'll get the MT mounted (so mach knows it has the MT as the current tool)
6) via MDI: T251M6
7) complete the tool change (don't actually physically mount the MT in the spindle - we will fake a Z touch off rather than actually touching the MT to a surface, no tool mounted gives us the most clearance possible while testing)
8 ) now we have T251 (The MT) mounted - which is the MT
9) Current T# DRO = 251 correct?
10) the TLO for the MT in MT mode is always = 0
The TL Offset DRO value should = +0.0    Correct?

we will set up for a touch operation in MT mode:
11) go to WC offset touch page
12) big Green MasterT Mode LED is on - correct?
13) via MDI: G53 G90 G0 X0 Y0 Z0
14) zero X, Y & Z - ok , now we have MC=WC=0 for X,Y,Z - all DROs for X,Y,Z in the offset panel should be 0
15) MDI: G53 G90 G1 F5 Z-1
16) Z row of offset panel should be:
-1.0 = -1.0 - +0.0 - +0.0 - +0.0

We are set up to do the "Set Z Zero" operation
we have:
    MCZAxis position = -1.0
    ZWCOffset = 0.0
    GBH = 0.5

The offset calculation for button in MT mode is:
WCOzOffset = MCZAxisPos - ZWCOffset - G-Blockheight
                   =     -1.0         -    0.0         -       0.5
                   =  -1.5

17) click Set Z Zero
18) Z row of offset panel will change and it should now be:
+0.5 = -1.0  -  -1.5  -  +0.0  -  +0.0

Dave


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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / MachStdMill v0.3.14 (Beta 10)
« on: September 12, 2010, 04:19:45 PM »
Hi,
MachStdMill Beta 10 (version 0.3.14) has been sent for posting to the Machsupport.com download page.

Beta 10 moves the min mach version to 3.43.22.

The changes in Beta 10 correct several minor MSM issues - see the release notes.

Dave



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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Update: Probing and SS
« on: September 12, 2010, 04:03:09 PM »
Update: Mach 3.43.22 fixes the SS probing issues.
Verified on my test setup and the setup of the user that first experienced the issue.
Dave


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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Touch off
« on: September 12, 2010, 03:53:16 PM »
Alan,
I'll put a code "work around" into MSM for the GetCurrentTool() API bug until the API is fixed in Mach.
It will be in the next MSM release (Beta 10).

Dave

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Touch off
« on: September 12, 2010, 02:43:48 PM »
Alan,
I think I found the problem: the GetCurrentTool() API for scripts is broken.
When the script calls it to get the current tool number an incorrect value is being returned.
The bad value is compared to the MT # and things fail rapidly from there.

This is a Mach bug - I'll have to get Brian to look at it.

Dave
 

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Wrong feed rate
« on: September 12, 2010, 02:04:30 PM »
Calum -
My SS test set up is currently unavailable so I can't see 1st hand what happens with a SS right now.

However, on a PP, the actual feed rate DRO = F word * FRO % to within +- 1 of the least significant digit.
Also the FRO does change the FR as the FRO is changed.

So, if there is a bug, it would appear to be SS/Mach related.

Dave

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Wrong feed rate
« on: September 10, 2010, 11:01:18 PM »
I am told that the feed rate issues are repaired in mach 3.43.22
see http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15471.msg107016.html#msg107016

Dave

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Touch off
« on: September 10, 2010, 10:57:17 PM »
Alan,
I'm traveling and can't do any hands on testing as I'm away from the shop.

In MT mode, the master tool has to be the tool used to touch and set Z Zero.

Looking at the code, I'm thinking that the issue is that the Master Tool is not mounted when the WC Offset page, Touch tab, Set Z zero button is clicked.

Here is the relevant code from the "Set Z Zero" button:
Code: [Select]
'
Code "G92.2"

If Not (GetUserDRO(MasterToolModeLED) = 1 ) Then
' we are not in Master tool mode
Call SetOEMDRO(MachMultiModeZAxisWCOEMDRO , Abs(GetUserDRO(TLOGageBlockHeightDRO )))
Else
' we are in master tool mode
' do we have the master tool mounted?
If GetCurrentTool() = GetUserDRO(MasterToolNumberDRO) Then
' we have the master tool

<<< here is where the MT Set Z Zero action is done - you don't get here>

Else

<<<< here is the message you are seeing >>>>>>

' can't do it - need master tool, tell user
MsgBox "Can't set Z0 in master tool mode w/o master tool",0,"Master Tool Mode"
End If
End If


What is the # of the master tool set to on the Tooling page?
(TC and master tool mode options panel)

What is the value of the Current Tool DRO when you click the Set Z zero button?

You will get the message when they are not the same number - i.e. when the currently mounted tool is not the master tool.

Dave

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
« on: September 10, 2010, 09:14:05 PM »
I am told that the feed rate issues are repaired in mach 3.43.22
see http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15471.msg107016.html#msg107016

Dave

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