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General Mach Discussion / home plus and minus = limit switches
« on: February 21, 2014, 05:16:23 PM »
Yes on the pins.
If you work in mm, then use that. Otherwise change your units of measure.

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General Mach Discussion / newbie help please
« on: February 21, 2014, 05:14:18 PM »
Star is a central point in which all grounds are brought. In my understanding this leaves only 1 path to ground. Having multiple places where grounds attach even to a conductive frame is a no no.

If you are not a member of CncZone I suggest you join there too. Look at the "general electronics" section. There is plenty of information (and debate) on the topic. It is worth a look.

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General Mach Discussion / home plus and minus = limit switches
« on: February 21, 2014, 03:19:04 PM »
You can use 3 pins for your limits or 1. Mach's default is to home 1 axis at a time. It knows which axis is in motion and what direction. It is merely waiting for the trigger to indicate it has arrived at a predetermined location.

Constant, in electrical terms this is "closed".

What is 610 square in the doofer? Sounds like you are hitting someone with your fist.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: newbie help please
« on: February 21, 2014, 02:49:19 PM »
I responded on your other thread about limits and a host of your other questions.

You will also have to be more clear on your questions as these topics leave the potential for damage and injury to machines and humans.

"also, i have earth/ground wires fitted at the motors, do I attach them to the earth on the power supply?"

First lets make sure we are talking the same terms.

Are you referring to the spindle motor?

or a stepper motor?

A stepper motor does not require a direct connection to your power supply, it is hooked to a driver (which is hooked to the DC power supply, not always but generally as far as hobby machines go)

The spindle motor on the other hand would need to be grounded.

There is also the case of shielding. Are you referring to the bare braided wire of the stepper wires bundle (or possibly any wire)? These are to stop stray voltages/EMI/Static etc from triggering an input or output.

In most hobby machine practices these are connected to the "star ground" on the controller cabinet end only. This is a complicated topic and has a few variables. Commercial machines connect it at both ends. Also chassis and earth grounds are tied in too.

Take pictures and post them to during your questions if possible. It helps all who read them and we like pictures.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: home plus and minus = limit switches
« on: February 21, 2014, 02:30:18 PM »
   There is a bit to learn here. It will help to read as much as you can. Especially the manual. I know it is a hard read especially if most is new. Some things you wont understand for years or ever possibly. I guess it would depend on how involved you will get. Not trying to offend, more like warn. Now on to some of your questions.

can you have seperate pins for an input of x y and z - or do all three go to one pin?
for the limit thing?

i think i have limit switches on both ends of each axis?
but only 2 wires coming down.

This is quite possible. Mach can use a variety of signals for homing or limits.

    To check, take a continuity tester. Put it on both leads, it should be beeping continuously, trigger a limit switch. Did it stop beeping? Try triggering both limits. If pressing either limit switch causes an interruption of the beeping, then you have both switches wired in series with both switches being NC or normally closed.
   This is the preferred method of using a switch. It will trigger if a wire breaks or a switch fails bringing all to a safe if not inconvenient halt.
    Always error to the side of safety. Dont take little machines lightly. They dont understand how soft you are or when to stop ;-)




how do I using the motors - simply move the head manually on screen?

   I am not really sure of what you mean here. Do you mean to make the head of the machine move? If that is what you are referring to, then a variety of ways are possible.
     MDI (manual data input) a place where a simple GCode is typed and run line by line usually.
     Hotkeys, these are keyboard keys assigned to specific functions. The functions can be almost anything from making an axis move a particular direction to triggering a limit switch, EStop or Reset. This can not be done before pins and ports are assigned in Mach (more on that later)
     GCode, a language that generates specific movements or motion in machines.


or how does the homing thing work, does it look for the switches front and left?
     In the section called homing/limits within Mach's configuration page there are many settings. An example of those settings will be, in which direction is the home switch?(this will be asked as a positive or negative direction), how far is the travel of this axis, how far would like this axis to go before it slows down and stops (again you want to give the machine a time to decelerate)

if for example I am only ever loading 2 foot square sheets in, can i set the machine to home at the front and to the left with the limit switches, so it knows it can only travel 2 foot back and 2 foot to the right?
       Yes, home can be wherever you want to set it, limits on the other hand are just that. As far as the machine can travel

how does it work please?
in laymans terms?
That was a brief description of what little I understand. Forget laymans terms. Read up, learn the terms of this trade or skill and it will get easier. The words used are specific and are meaningful, it just takes time to understand their use. Same with the math involved to calculate all kinds of things once machining. BTW in no way am I preaching as I know a lot. I was a true beginner only a few years ago, now I know a little more. Probably about as much as the guy sweeping the floor of the shop in his first year ;-)

i think i understand assigning a pin on the bob to mach 3 home in the pin set up, but do not understand the purpose? - is it to simply shut the machine off from squaling the couplers on the shafts - yes i did just do that
 :o
Dont know what squaling is. Maybe you meant stalling? If so steppers are forgiving, no big deal at all.
Ports and pin assignments are so the computer can tell the machine what to do. It is referring to each pin of a DB25 or parallel port. Pins communicate both ways (different pins for each direction, limit switch inputs, spindle speed output, relays and a host of other commands).

As I said there is plenty to read. Youtube also has some tutorials. Good Luck and enjoy






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Show"N"Tell ( What you have made with your CNC machine.) / Bike I built
« on: February 19, 2014, 08:30:03 AM »
Or your own show! Maybe less drama.

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General Mach Discussion / Shielding
« on: February 19, 2014, 08:28:23 AM »
Some tie the "mains earth and the v- of the power supply into the star ground also. Plenty of debate.

   I know 1 thing, noise causes problems.

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General Mach Discussion / Holes don't align to center X-axis
« on: February 19, 2014, 08:25:13 AM »
From my readings here. Noise/interference is a real issue for plasma tables. Practice the best wiring techniques.

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / My CNC Router
« on: February 19, 2014, 08:23:08 AM »
Looks nice and clean!

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General Mach Discussion / Relay
« on: February 18, 2014, 08:41:52 PM »
Are you hooking it up for the first time or did it quit working?