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*****VIDEOS***** / Re: Laser Cut Frame CNC Router New build
« on: February 14, 2013, 05:34:25 AM »
Thanks Tweakie

As mentioned it was a colaboration with a mate Leo S, An engineering friend of over 25 years.
We have had many an enjoyable argument over designs.... :)

Cheers
John

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: 4 axis bedmill retrofit
« on: February 14, 2013, 04:13:23 AM »
Hello Machine Head

Autolisp?

I have an Acad license. If it is not your personal IP I would be very interested in trying it.

Cheers
John McNamara  

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*****VIDEOS***** / Re: Laser Cut Frame CNC Router New build
« on: February 14, 2013, 03:59:56 AM »
Hi All

See previous post... Ther was a problem with my image links. The video links are fine.

Cad Design


Cut Line:


Overview (Table is temporary)


Every rotating element runs in ball bearings.


Test Pattern:


Cheers
John

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*****VIDEOS***** / Laser Cut Frame CNC Router New build
« on: February 14, 2013, 03:22:12 AM »
Hi All
 
A CNC router made from Laser cut 5mm steel plate with almost no welding. driven by Mach 3. and smothe stepperr USB card.
 
It was designed using Autocad in 3D a commercial program however there are many free CAD packages that can generate DXF files to give to a laser cutting service.
 
Almost No Welding? The design uses a joint design that is effectively (two) mortise and tenon pairs together with standard fasteners between the pairs, to make each connection) ; in this case M5 high tensile nuts and bolts, to join the various members together. Using this method there are zero sheer (well almost) forces on the fastenings only tension forces. I believe it could easily be scaled up to at least 12mm plate. Laser cutting has very little undercut; however there is some so plates will not ne perpendicular to each other and need to be supported in two planes to counter this. make sure the attached plates are interlocked in sets of 3 opposed at 90 degrees. Buy doing this using my best More and Wright square to test the joints I could see no light. bolt holes aligned so perfectly that there was no eye observable misalignment. There are no tapped holes in the plates. The bolts and nuts fit in slots you can see the slots in the views.
 
If you are wondering the only welds are the end plates of the 75mm sq tube rail supports, We are going to make a new machine with joined 5mm plate instead of these tubes. It will be more accurate and lessen the packing we needed to set the rails true on the RHS (we used a surface plate).
 
Laser cutting is now a fairly competitive area and the group was able to negotiate a reasonable cost for the work roughly steel cost plus steel cost x 2 for labour. The machin positioning accuracy was .01mm. we allowed on top of that .1mm (point one) clearance for the joints and no allowance for holes.
 
When the parts came back from the cutting service there were small (tiny) dags here and there. about 4 hours work total with a small file to clean all the joints and it went together like a clock. No welding distortion...... We redrilled all the round 5mm holes to clean them out as they were already laser cut it only took a few seconds per hole. the holes were positioned far better than I can do with a centre punch. Yes the machine could have been made by hand methods but have a look at the parts photo. how many hundred man hours. I have spent a fair number of hours just turning all the rotating parts .
 
The machine also uses Chinese round shaft linear rails and a z axis ball screw. You will be amazed how the cost of these have fallen on EBay and the like. X and y drives are 5mm timing belt.
 
All the rotating parts use flanged ball bearings 8mm and 12mm again the internet provided a source ...VXB Bearings were very helpful and are a good starting point. The flange is clamped between the frame and a laser cut plate with 4 M4 bolts

The design is a collaboration with a great friend Leo S and The Bright Men's shed group, Bright is a central Victorian country town. A Men's Shed is a community supported building equipped with various metalworking, welding and wood working machinery; members pay a nominal fee to pay for tea and coffee. and are free to use the equipment (after doing OH&S induction and training).

Ther result is very pleasing indeed. clean accurate cutting.

We are now working on a new design 2400 x 1200 x 150h work area using the same methodology.
Cheers
 
John McNamara

Images and video below........

Cad Design:


Laser file:


Overview (Table is temporary)


Every rotating element runs in flanged or circlip type ball bearings (clamped in laser cut holes)


A couple of movies....
 
The first test 120 mb file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3atxyt94f76xk7c

A bigger test 500mb file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6yeg2c78d3vwivp

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General Mach Discussion / Re: quilting or embroidery machine
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:16:41 AM »
Hi Tweakie

That is good news.

Lets see if we can create a more user friendly interface.

After loading a program from disk can Mack 3 be run from buttons alone.

These are the ones needed.

(1)  A Zero Button...... to zero the machine to a known start position (it is a hard stop)
       this also resets the program to the start

(2)  A Start Button......to Start running a program
   It will keep running unless a cotton breakage or other error trips an error and stops it.

(3)  4 buttons X and Y, up down To move the head for maintenance.
   If it stops it needs X,Y up down buttons to jog it into a position where the operator can change the thread.

(4)  A reposition...... button this will move the machine back to where it stopped running the program.

(5)  A run program manually Back (Without stitching) Button
(6)  A run program manually forward (Without stitching) Button
       Allows skipping a section or moving back in case of thread breakage   

(7) A temporary stop button (the program can be restarted from whare it stopped)

I don't think I have forgotten any...... these were the ones I used on a commercial quilter I used to own.

The machine I had used eproms to store programs. We used to draw the patterns in cad then burn them to a chip.  These days a USB stick would be better. Ideally for a commercial machine the keyboard is not needed. just a screen showing the needle position within the program.

A machine using buttons alone may be useful for other applications.

Cheers
John McNamara

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General Mach Discussion / Re: quilting or embroidery machine
« on: August 22, 2012, 05:54:26 AM »
Hi Tweakie

The catch is the machine head has to be moved to one side in order to re-thread the and change bobbins.

Apart from the reel of thread that feeds the needle there is a small bobbin of thread underneath. Hence the need for the machine to access that area (Which is hard to access under the work, a large sheet of material wadding and lining material) at best it can be done from the side.

It sounds like Mach 3 cannot do this; you would not be just doing a feed hold. you have to move and return to the same spot then back up as described previously in this thread. I hope I am wrong

Cheers
John McNamara

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General Mach Discussion / Re: quilting or embroidery machine
« on: August 21, 2012, 07:35:19 PM »
Hi All

Good idea if cannot already be done.

There are no doubt other industrial processes where you may have to retrace your steps. Oxy cutting after a flame out for instance?

Or a tool breaks or just chips, they sometimes fail and you have to replace it.

Cheers

Macka

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General Mach Discussion / Re: quilting or embroidery machine
« on: August 21, 2012, 02:53:52 AM »
Hi Tweakie

Go back to page 2 this thread (Last post)

The catch is sensing the thread (with an opto or mechanical switch) has to be done in the area after the thread tensioner. A switch does not work well there (I know having had a quilting machine for many years) what does work is checking if the thread is moving. that can be done before the thread tensioner. See the note mentioned above.

Cheers
John McNamara

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General Mach Discussion / Re: quilting or embroidery machine
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:28:13 AM »
Hi Larry L

I guess this is the broken thread problem; after the thread breaks there is a delay before the machine stops, leaving an unstitched section. Once the machine is rethreaded you want to back up along the stitch path manually, without sewing and the needle up until you reach the place where the machine stopped sewing then a little further back, an inch or so to lock off the loose end. The program can then complete automatically.

Commercial machines have a reverse button for this....

There is a reposition button in addition to the reverse button.

You may also have to move the machine head to an accessibile position, some quilting machine frames are very large Say 4 x 5 metres making it impossible to thread the machine if the sewing head is in the middle of the quilt. Commercial machines allow you to move the head to the side with X,Y buttons while remembering the last position where the stitching stopped.

The sequence in this situation is move to the side, rethread, reposition, then back up to the last stitched line and a little more to lock it off.

Can it be done easily with Mach 3?

Cheers
John


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It is a bit more complicated often the pattern has to be continuous, so the start and end points of the repeated pattern have to be in the same place on order to join up. Alternatively the pattern is a series of spaced motifs. At the start and end of each stitched area a "Back tack" meaning two or three stitches back forward and back again to lock the end of the sewing threads, is needed to stop the stitching unravelling. (This could be a canned cycle in Mach 3 In order to be unnoticeable it must follow the angle of the stitch line not just orthagonal....Not so easy) On second thought it should be part of the DXF converter; Fortunately it is always required so no logic apart from finding starts and stops.  

When I used to do this for a living I designed the patterns on Autocad using Joined polylines. then exported the completed DXF file to a machine code converter. Alas not G Code, although There must be many available. The quilting machine was an Italian Resta h220 I designed the code converter in VB and rebuilt the machine enlarging it to super king size.

Pattern objects are not always placed in a rectangular grid often it is a diamond or other pattern. meaning there will be rows of even and odd numbers of patterns placed out of phase for want of a better word.

Maybe one day I will have a go at a new CNC stitcher. If I did it would use Cad and a converter for software. There are so many design possibilities that writing specialised software that is short of a Full Cad program would be restrictive. There are plenty of free 2D Cad programs That Export DXF

For Scaling I preferred to draw the design life size in CAD although I did add that feature to the converter as a convenience.

Stitching is normally spaced about 6 to 8 stitches per inch; the speed of the sewing machine must be synchronised to the speed of the feed path and that will most likely be an angle. I am not sure how well Mach 3 handles that.
 
Quilting machines have very high inertia due to the large size frame and carriage,
Optimally the machine head may run at around 4000rpm meaning 4000 stitches per minute, this produces a feed rate (if 6 stitches per inch) of 55 feet per minute. Many patterns have 90 degree bends in them or complete reversals. I do not know if Mack 3 can handle this gracefully slowing down before turns, while maintaining the constant stitch rate per inch if feed requirement?

Gee It a while since I thought about this problem.....

Cheers
John

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