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LazyTurn / Re: Cant seem to cut all material
« on: August 21, 2016, 09:05:46 AM »
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I also do not need the cut at z0...that would hit my live center..whats up with removing that, dfx wise?

Have a play with the yellow and green Pentagon settings as you can set where the tool is or starts cutting.
The top / yellow pentagon sets where the pathing starts, say you set at +.1,then pathing starts at Z=.1, but it still will cut to the X=0.
 

The bottom / green pentagon sets where Z zero.
If you set the end of stock ( green pentagon) at Z=0 and the pathing start point (yellow pentagon) at Z=-.1 , then pathing will start at Z=-.1 and it will/ may not cut to Z=0.

Just need to see how the pathing was affected.

DXF ........
If you want to partialy machine the face due to using a live center in the tail stock there is no "setting" in LazyTurn. A way to do it would be to modify the profile such that you create a notch ( or another straight contour ) on the end such that the tool can only follow the profile to some depth away from X=0 but does not face the stock.

And note that you can cut left to right if the tool defined as center cutting.

Read the manual and play with the program to gain experience.

RICH


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General Mach Discussion / Re: Tool Offset Macro...
« on: August 20, 2016, 05:10:23 PM »
Dave,
Make a bunch of small accurate collars (say 1/4" thk with a set screw) place on the each end mill to restrict how far the end mill
enters the R8 collet. When the collet gets snug move the end mill into it as far as the collar allows and complete tightening the R8.
Match mark placement orientation.
The collars provide for quite accurate repeatable length as defined in a tool table. Try it out and may be satisfactory.
Poor mans quick change holder for the mill!

RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: Cant seem to cut all material
« on: August 19, 2016, 09:52:01 AM »
bbcnc,
See attached PDF.

Have fun,

RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: Cant seem to cut all material
« on: August 18, 2016, 02:32:30 PM »
Post the Gcode file generated by Lazyturn.
RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Improved g83 macro with bug fixes (I hope)
« on: August 15, 2016, 08:35:53 AM »
Just another reference, Drill Wizard for Turn ,that may be of interest.
I incorporated the wizard into my screen set.

Here is the link:

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,16533.msg112079.html#msg112079

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Improved g83 macro with bug fixes (I hope)
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:30:28 PM »
No sure if you are aware of it but you can find some drilling macro's for the lathe here:

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15205.msg101682.html#msg101682

May be worth having a look at the code, haven't used recently but it did work fine on the lathe.

For Reference,

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Diagnostics
« on: August 06, 2016, 07:55:31 PM »
Barry,
Maybe you should ask the seller of your board for a  pin out.

I don't know how much you paid for it, BUT, for the aggravation you are experiencing ......just get something with information and move on. ;)
Long time ago helped a young lad get a TB????  working ....took hours.....what a pain and never /ever again. That's why I won't even assist with that junk.

Something to think about,

RICH


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General Mach Discussion / Re: Tool Offset Macro...
« on: July 29, 2016, 08:53:30 AM »
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Hmm, any chance of a worked example of that method? Just a few lines of what happens....
Took me long enough to get my head round the little bit i have got it round so far

A few comments first:
- When machine coordinates = part coordinates then there are no offsets
- One can create an inialization file / macro to put the machine into a reapeatable state
- One can reference or de-reference axes
- Lathe tooling is more complex than mill tooling,so there are differences, but basics of
  how to are still similar.
- Tool 0 has no offsets, is not configurable but can be used to advantage
  ie; T#0 and T#1 can be used for the master tool but if you change T#1 then all the other
  tool offsets get changed. All tools relate to the master but they also relate to each
  other.
- Any touch off and recording of data is only as accurate / repeatable as YOUR machine
  and setup.

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Now there are numerous ways to do things, but here are some things to think about which
in the long run will save you time.

1.How do YOU want to work?
2.How automated and to what extent do you want to do things.....now and in the future?
3.If you can get a a screen set which satisfies your needs, buy it / use it as custom
  stuff does take time to do.
4.No need to buy expensive stuff when you can accomplish the same simply and accurately
  with home brew things. BUT, there is a lot to be learned by reviewing what industry has to
  offer and how it's done.
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Simplified example:

Home, referenced location, and tool change location are the same based on a probed
part location or setter using reference tool / Tool #0. KISS! Tool#1 is also the same
reference / master tool and has no offsets.Thus one can see current tool offset in the DRO's.
There are no G92 offsets. Thus any tool offset is based is based on machine move as compared
to the master tool for current probed tool to same location.The axis is probed to a common
surface / plane and touched off automaticaly and also the the current tool offset is put into
the tool table. Moving away to a generic / common location is always known.

SO.....Set / find a reference, probe axis to it, move away for change tool, probe current tool
and continue until tool table is populated.

NOTE:
Not all needs to be as above initial current state, BUT, It all depends on how you want to work.
ie; You could have the tool change location anywhere you want,etc,etc, etc.
What YOUR macro does addresses YOUR machine capabilities, how YOU want to do stuff.

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So it would seem logical that one look at the big picture and probing macro would find
some location, set/ reset machine state, find and update the tool table. But addtionaly
one may want additonal options like:

TOOL TABLE
- open it
- save it
- export it
- reset it
- import a table

Allow for manual and automated offset adjustment, tool change location, creation changing
of offsets, etc.

But other then tool probing, probing can be used to find locations, create a dxf based on
point data, and all the variations on data manipulation to suite ones need.

Just some thoughts,

RICH
 

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Eder,

I have deleted the last three replies to your post as I can envision replies not focused on the topic.
My owne reply was included in the deleted replies.

Your topic questions the cost of Mach software and ONLY Artsoft can address pricing of their product if
they so desire. No one else can.

Ideology can not be part of this topic if it is to remain focused, thus, there is no need for anyone to reply other
than Artsoft.

Just moderating, ;)
RICH


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General Mach Discussion / Re: Tool Offset Macro...
« on: July 28, 2016, 07:28:21 PM »
Have you considered just working in Machine coordinates with no offsets active for probing tools?
Probe with the  master tool which has no length, then any move / probing value is directly read and can be sent to the tool table for that tool number.
 
Then you can also write / have a few buttons to print, change, copy and rename / store to safe place your tool table.
Lots of ways to do it but I keep mine simple on the lathe.

Arm Chair Machinist lately....... :),

RICH

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