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General Mach Discussion / Re: Different ACME
« on: November 06, 2010, 03:10:00 PM »
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I think by going with 5/8”-10 on the Y axis it will decrease the whiplash on this long (about 36”) axis

Suggest you have a look at some of the ball screw manufacture info reguarding length and diameter of a screw
relative to it's mounting and speed. How straight the screw is over it's length also will have an influence.

RICH
   

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Does your computer have a PP?
Can you provide more info on the motors. Is there a tag or whatever on the motor which gives some specifics about it?
How manny wires do the motors have?

I assume that the drives are mounted in a box ( controller) and there is a power supply there.
Can you post some internal  pictures of the controller?

May as well check out the device to make sure all is well before hooking it up to a computer?

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: G83 will rapid out but not in, Mach3Turn
« on: November 05, 2010, 03:41:03 PM »
The routines i use on the lathe in Mach Turn can be found in the Downloads >Tool Box.
Here is the link:
I know these work on the lathe from test's i did some time ago. Make sure you read how to use the macros.

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15205.msg101682.html#msg101682

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: On board vs plug in LPT port
« on: November 05, 2010, 05:08:01 AM »
Should work, how well I can't say,but, you will find out. Hopefully the drivers they supply for it will be appropriate for it and your operating system.
RICH

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LazyCam (Beta) / Re: Lazycam video
« on: November 04, 2010, 07:48:15 PM »
Use the scroll wheel of your mouse, press down and move the mouse to rotate the displayed graphics.
Other screen manipulation instructions are given in the manual see Section 5.

RICH

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: single axixs wizard
« on: November 04, 2010, 05:30:37 PM »
I don't know of a wizard. Seems like you are just wanting to dupliate the movement of the Z axis moving  up and down and the X or Y moving a certain distance. You can hand code that or draw what you want and have a program generate the required code.

RICH

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FAQs / Re: spindle speed reads (-)
« on: November 04, 2010, 06:50:44 AM »
There was a problem with computer cpu's with a fast bus speed >2.1 Ghx which would cause the negative  spindle speed in the DRO.
That was fixed and you need to use version 3.042.33 and later.

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Leadscrew vibrates in one direction
« on: November 04, 2010, 06:42:01 AM »
LEAVEME,
All has to do with the size / length, operating rpm, how the screw is supported and even allignment. Have a look at the technical information available from ball screw manufacturers. Specificaly read info on anchoring and guiding of the screw and critical speed of screws. There are charts or if you so desire you can use the formulas provided.

RICH

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FAQs / Re: Losing steps or something?
« on: November 02, 2010, 08:59:56 PM »
Interesting thread to follow, that said, i am going to make some comments FWIW.

1.The software is the begining of the controlling process. It could be buggy, but, one dosen't know without some physical indication.

2. It can be useless looking for an electronic step / pulse  without the proper equipment.
Ideally it would be nice to have a pulse counter which could simultaneously take and compare say the following:
PC to PP - PP output - drive input - drive output to the motor ....and compare the electronics. Not manny folks have
access to such an instrument or one of high enough quality that it can be trusted as the "last word". Of course the signal quality
along the way by itself can contribute to a problem.

3. The motor acts as a converter to mechanical motion. So anything downstream of it becomes  motion /  distance.
The motor by itself can be a contributor.So now you have all the variables like timing gear, belt, bearing, screw, nut and
 each has it owne level of quality relative to the motion. Yes ....a belt can create what would apear to be a lost step.

So if one wanted to be  annal about all this, they would need to isolate each part of the system , define the error against some standard,
put it into perspective to the final outcome namely , motion. Good grief... thats only about 20 tests and it dosn't even include
other devices a user may be using or software influences. All of them need to be done in a very disciplined way and to higher degree than the
min resolution of the system.

Considering the above the user needs to work with what they have and can do and in most cases that is not much.
So what can you do quite accurately?
Minimise the electronics to only that which is needed for motion. PC/PP/drive/ then a motion measuring device upstream of the
mechanics. Simply put, you put out pulses and measure them at motor output shaft. To do that one can make mechanical ( not electronic )
indicator and see what that "block" of the system is doing. ie;

A simple disc of 6 " diameter would have a circumference of 18.849". At 20000 steps per inch, the resolution / single step is equal to  0.00005"
if all was perfect and 18.849 / 20000= 0.0001" of circumferential movement of the disc. An 8" disc would give you 0.0013" of circumferential movement.You need to make at least a 1 rev of the motor since the non linearinty of the stepper should repeat. You can figure out what commanded movement
is required for one complete revolution of the disc. Make note that if you fall in a micro step you may be +-  in cicumferential distance.

So the user can check a drive with micro step or without ( use the same motor ) , then swap the cables and compare other drives. Forward and reversemotion.Try the same with a different motor. Try a different PP port. But make note of the data of each test. Not all motors are the same!
At least this way you are comparing electronics to a motion standard without influences of the mechanical system.

Just some thoughts FWIW on testing,

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Output problem.
« on: November 01, 2010, 05:46:56 AM »
Brad,
Here is a link to an xml reader:

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,9561.msg58446.html#msg58446

recently there was another one posted which will compare xml files.

Like Hood said, don't change anything if you don't understand what your doing.

RICH

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