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LazyTurn / Re: Inscribed circle, what am I missing?
« on: December 02, 2010, 05:48:16 PM »
The problem discussed was that if  you use the "standard definition" ie; inside of the insert then the manufactures tolerences come into play as compared to actualy measuring  the insert.
So that is where the answers and contradication comes into play.   
RICH

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LazyTurn / Re: Inscribed circle, what am I missing?
« on: December 02, 2010, 05:36:03 PM »
The definiton is as stated and shown in the link by Overloaded in the manual. Not sure if Art ever checked and answered my question definitively.
Good grief i only have 375 pages of notes...........!
There seems to be some contradication and will need to look thru a lot of the posts and then check each tool out which LT creates.
Thanks, till then,
RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Light Machines lathe
« on: December 02, 2010, 05:13:13 PM »
We need info on the drives which are inside the controller box. Do you now have any info on them?
If not, can you take some pictures of the inside of the controller?
RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Long Taper groove (thread) Can it be done?
« on: November 30, 2010, 06:32:42 AM »
Jeff,
It's been a while since i fooled with this, but if you do threading using alternating flank cutting using a V shaped tool you could cut a groove. Actually it would be more like an acme thread.
You just adjust the X end to be  less than the depth of a large v thread. The alternate thread method willl minimise the load on the piece since it alternates between the flanks when cutting.
If your lathe is very accurate along with manny passes the root may have a finished appearance.
Have fun........
RICH

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Steve,
I guess your starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Looking good....
RICH

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Works in progress / Re: 3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - WIZARD ADDITIONS
« on: November 28, 2010, 07:20:16 AM »
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I wish I could find more documentation on how mach uses specific gcodes.

You will find a lot of info relative to arcs on the lathe in the ARC  Motion write up in Members Docs.
RICH

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Works in progress / Re: 3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - WIZARD ADDITIONS
« on: November 27, 2010, 06:38:45 PM »
G32 WIZARD

CURRRENT STATE OF THE MACHINE
Threading of the part is complete, spindle is turning / coolant is on , and X & Z axes are at some point along the axis. It is assumed that that current
modes ie: inches / exact stop and tool etc have not been changed. It's also assumed the user saved settings in the whatvever thread wizard was
used and has not closed the current  thread file.

1. Spindle off
2. Reset / Estop/ the axes are disengaged for safety

MANUAL MEASUREMENT
The user will measure the thread, test with a thread gage, or try a nut or something to determine how much they want to remove from the oversize thread.
Most users don't even have a thread mic. I thought about having the wizard calculate what to do based on some measurements. It just opens up a can of
worms ( actual axis resolution, pitch dia basis, measurement averaging ) that is not worth having the wizard compute the correction. It's not only the as cut
diameter, but also  lead , tool, and other things that can affect  what the user ended up with. So KISS is going to be used such that only some spring
pass  is generated based on whatever the user inputs.

INPUTS FOR THE WIZARD:
The X must be positioned  and the same feedrate which was used in the threading wizard. Z start would usually  be positive  3 to 5 x pitch from Z=0 of the piece, but,
who knows what someone used. There is a difference between say using Scotts, the Simple Threading, or a G76. So the question is where can the data
for inputs best come from ( other than manual input). Note that the G32 will not provide for pullout other than "0" setting for a chamfer at the end of the thread.

Scott, not knowing just what data you can or can't get may  determine how the wizard is done ( or maybe shouldn't be done), thus some questions as follows:

?  assume the  current Z & X can be had from the DRO's
? can you extract data from the saved settings of the Simple Threading or your wizard.
? Is it possible to extract the last lines of code from a file and use them

Here is a list of data for the wizard: (> meaning data not input by the user if possible)
X> CURRENT LOCATION
X>END
Z>CURRENT LOCATION
F> FEEDRATE

X= USER INPUT FOR THREAD ADJUSTMENT
Z= USER INPUT ( MAYBE NEEDED IF CLEANING UP A MULTIPLE START THREAD / DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO THERE!)
F= USER INPUT ( i DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GET INTO THIS ONE.......EXPLAIN LATER)
N=USER INPUT FOR NUMBER OF PASSES

So the code the wizard provides will  reposition the X & Z ,  an x move to a position, G32 move to thread the piece,
and a return after the threading  to a position.

RICH

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Works in progress / Re: 3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - WIZARD ADDITIONS
« on: November 27, 2010, 03:08:42 PM »
Need a new one for the threading bmp, nothing fancy, just show a rod with thread on the end and a name. The current one was just a screen shot and looks like........
Later the tool paths, when appropriate,  can be added to them.
Like the teamwork, just think what could get done if we had about ten people in here!
That said, i wil be traveling tomorrow, so out of pocket for a day.
RICH

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Works in progress / Re: 3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - WIZARD ADDITIONS
« on: November 27, 2010, 02:31:31 PM »
DaOne,
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I like how they are commented in the G-code.

Yep, forgot all about that, it's for dummies like me who only use them once in while and suggest that it is kept or added to in all the others. I can help with the bit maps.
Later,
RICH

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Works in progress / Re: 3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - WIZARD ADDITIONS
« on: November 27, 2010, 01:08:11 PM »
Wes, Sorry about that as it went to my draft folder. Just sent it a few minutes ago.
RICH

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