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General Mach Discussion / Re: Lead or Ball Screws (lathe Conversion)
« on: June 14, 2011, 10:00:24 PM »
I used it on both the lathe and my mill. Yes it does work quite well for the intended purpose.
I don't use it anymore as both machines no longer have a backlash problem.

RICH

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Use the WRITE wizard to generate the Gcode.
RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Lead or Ball Screws (lathe Conversion)
« on: June 14, 2011, 09:38:33 PM »
Interesting to get a variety of opinions on the matter.

Katoh,
You can get a lot out of a "system" and get good prefomance and accuracy for some dollar amount.
As the desired accuracy and preformance increases you pay for the increased system. So only you can decide and define the cost, effort, and end
system quality for what you want or may ever want  to do. You can't compare systems of different quality ie; hobby to  industral. Your's is what you have or will have should you desire to improve it.That my friend is just a fact of life!

As my music teacher said....YOU CAN HAVE ANYTHING ON THE SHELF BUT ONCE YOU DECIDE YOU WANT IT THEN YOU MUST PAY THE PRICE
Then he said .....NOTHING EVER STANDS STILL IT  PROGRESS OR REGRESSES AND THAT IS JUST NATURE

What you see is what you get , but, maybe what you see is not necessarily what you think it is. Ask someone how much  it cost to replace their bearings in a say a Hardinge lathe, or it's lead screw. Can the lathe cut a class one thread, a class two thread, or does the nut just go on the thread?

Practical info on screws:
They are not all created equal. The ones removed from both my Atlas lathes and mill were ground.
You are not going to get ground lead screws for cheap and certainly not on the imports for their machine pricing.
There are lead screws in my engraving machine and the nuts have backlash removal and provide for 20 micron accuracy over their travel 
( yes that's .000020", but i could only verify to .000040", so i will believe the certification papers).
 I know of friends that have cnc lathes using all thread  / crappy cheap threaded rods along with .080" backlash and they have done some nice work using backlash comp. I wonder why they changed them out to ball screws?

I have a Sherline lathe with the anti backlash attachement, the lead screw is quite accurate, but, even with the backlash adjustment, as compared to ball screw it sucks in accuracy. Not bashing Sherline but it depends on what your trying to do with it.

My Rockwell manual lathe will produce threads that rival my cnc converted Atlas lathe.
But the Atlas is very reliable on producing the part over and over even if this dumbo defines it incorrectly.

The "system" is only as good as the sum of it's components and installation. A high end ball screw with poor  / improper bearing installation
 could be just as bad or no better than a higher end screw.

So should you replace the current lead screws with ball screws?
Only you can decide as stated above. ;)

BTW, A non-backlash accurate cnc machine is just pure joy to use.  ;D

RICH

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Works in progress / Re: THE LATHE PROJECT - 2011
« on: June 14, 2011, 08:19:31 PM »
I'll see what i have on the other PC where the screen is loaded. Next day or two....
RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Inaccurate spindle speed reading
« on: June 14, 2011, 06:46:02 AM »
I use one and reads very accurately out to 3600 rpm which is my max spindle speed and use a kernel speed of 25000.
Could be a number of things, here are some thoughts
- the sensor must be capable of switching at higher rates ( see your spec )
- Sensor position and magnet used ( i use a rare earth magnet 1/8" diameter )
- Quality of the signal ( see if there is any noise or spikes ) using a o'scope

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Lead or Ball Screws (lathe Conversion)
« on: June 14, 2011, 06:27:49 AM »
Accuracy,repeatability, wear / longivity of the screw and of course backlash removal. Additionaly one may desire to have a speciific resolution or turning rate of the screw.
The original screw may have good lead accuracy but backlash exists ,and even if adjustable for backlash,you just can't maintain it without constant adjustment.

RICH

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Works in progress / Re: THE LATHE PROJECT - 2011
« on: June 13, 2011, 07:22:07 PM »
Scott,
Here is the link to Phils screen set and the latest was 24lset....

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,13548.msg88932.html#msg88932

The zip file should contain all the files your looking for.
RICH

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Works in progress / Re: THE LATHE PROJECT - 2011
« on: June 13, 2011, 06:20:59 PM »
Scott,
I'll get them to you.
There is a thread and you can download his screen so that would give you the bit maps. Just can't find the posting.....
RICH

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LazyCam (Beta) / Re: LAZYCAM - DEFINITON OF ANY TERM IN THE MANUAL
« on: June 12, 2011, 08:30:27 PM »
Post the dxf file. I never had that problem and have backplotted enough of the code to know that the dimensions
are not changed.....but you never know.

RICH

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LazyCam (Beta) / Re: Import DXF
« on: June 12, 2011, 08:22:37 PM »
LC's dxf importer is not the best. I never use polylines and all entities are lines or arc's for what i have done.

Some comments on your drawing:

Like Gerry, I also exploded the whole drawing and there were some 500 + items that didn't explode and LC locked up when i tried to import
a ver12 dxf of it. I also took the drawing and did the equivilant in Microstation and the curved lines were converted to arcs and the exported dxf locked up LC.
So I deleted about 75% of the file and LC  was able to use it.

I fooled with the tolerance setting in LC but that didn't improve things.

I used CamBam and it had no trouble with the complete exploded ver12 dxf .
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Frankly, I don't know what your going to do with this file or any equivilant one like it for that matter.
There are converters out there but the results most often leave something to be desired. I don't play much in the
"picture" or "image" machining / routing arena. Results from upper end software seems to be satisfactory for the router folks.
If i want a picture done then it will be vector based as i can control what i want to accomplish for the engraving.

I can't comment much on LC's use of bitmaps or images. I fooled with it some time ago and wasn't impressed with it.

BTW, i didn't delete the bird that was in your dxf file. ;)

RICH

 

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