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Tangent Corner / Re: Tight on space.
« on: April 25, 2018, 06:21:46 AM »
The thought of the guy being a bachelor immediately came to mind upon seeing the picture.
If married he must have an understanding wife or a good pre-marriage agreement. :D

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: G28 moves twice, not understanding why.
« on: April 16, 2018, 07:26:23 PM »
Have a look in the manual ( 10.7.10 ) about the G28 command.

RICH

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: My File is running real slow
« on: April 16, 2018, 07:16:45 PM »
Yes, for a given time, the feed rate changes as the diameter varies, but, you'll limited depending on the other axis max velocity as compared to the A axis.
Study the chart that I posted. 

RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Probing - what would i need?
« on: April 15, 2018, 07:08:36 PM »
If its the wizard doing it,
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how would i combine the wizard screen into the main screen as a page?

If using Machscreen, just select everything of the wizard page and copy/paste  the wizard screen page into an empty page of the other screen.


RICH

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: My File is running real slow
« on: April 12, 2018, 03:09:22 PM »
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He wants to make Mach read in RPM no Degrees.  I was curious why, exactly, does he want to do that.

Because he has a hard time relating to it and so do a lot of other folks.

IE;
Walk into candy store in a metric nation, request a  1/4 # of candy,
the waiter  says back to you ..... How many grams of candy? .......
DAHHHHHHHHHHHH you say 1750 grains......,
the  waiter replies how many  grams please .....
DAhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  you say .1 kilos.....,
waiter replies the scale is in grams only and again asks how many grams............,
DAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, frustrated you say.....  just fill my hand with candy and weigh it ! :D

ie; Another one
You buy a car and the tach reads in degrees per min!
What would be the first words that would appear in the bubble above a persons head?  ??? ;D

RICH

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Post your the xml file you are using. The file name should be unique, so change the file name to something like  da98.xml
before posting it.

RICH

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At what velocity did each axis start skipping for each axis?
At what accel did each axis     "                     "    ?


RICH

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You can copy a current xml file and rename it to say test.xml if you wish.
You use the test.xml file to play with settings and still have the original xml file with current settings should you wish to go back to where you started.

So you went through all the testing and found that 2400mm/min velocity is a reliable max velocity to use?
Then did you test for max acceleration at that setting? If you did then why are you setting it at a value of 50?
Then did you try running some code to see if it skips?


RICH

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Probing - what would i need?
« on: April 11, 2018, 08:44:11 AM »
Hmmm...............
KISS and basic custom probing screen page or set?
I use a separate xml and screen set for one of my probing needs since it requires the axes to jog different than conventional
and a few other reasons.
I don't know the in and outs of your system and level of automation  you desire for setup of a job, but, maybe you can un-automate it some.

I can be frustrating at times, but, in the end you will be stronger for it all.........so they say.


FWIW,
RICH

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Mach4 General Discussion / Re: My File is running real slow
« on: April 11, 2018, 08:21:05 AM »
To supplement Gaig's replies, the following should be of value.

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What do i need to do to get my code running at a decent speed?

You will need to know what is the max velocity is for each of the axis.
 In a synchronised move the slowest axis determines the speed of all the rest.
So you are limited by the slowest max velocity.

One can use a  Stepper Caculator located in Members Doc's to find steps per unit and it
also gives additional info.

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,16315.0.html

Assuming that the XYZ are tuned and represent reliable operation then you have the max
velocity in units per min. Now you need to know the same for an A axis ( rotary )
and it's nice be able to relate the deg/min (max feedrate) to the linear axes feedrate.

You tune a rotary similar to a linear axis as follows:
- Steps per degree is calculated.
- use a velocity ( deg per min) of 360 and accel of say 10
- double the velocity until the rotary skips, and reduce velocity by say 10%.
- now increase the accel, say 10, 400, 1600, 3200, etc and find where it skips
  for the max velocity found.
You have now know where the A axis skips for a your velocity and acceleration settings.

To relate the rotary to rpm just  manualy time ( or  measure rpm ) how long  it takes to make
 1 revolution, say over 4 revolutions. Do that for a few lower / different velocity settings below
the max velocity found.

The attached shows results of the above in a spread sheet.
Angular Motor Tuning shows an rpm value for the rotary.
Linear unit per Min at table RPM - Since the slowest axis will govern the max velocity that
can be used in a sychronized move this relates the linear axis to roatry axis velocities.
Say the max linear axes velocity is set at 60 inches per min and is represented by the yellow,
then max angular velocity for a  coded sychronized move should be restricted such that it doesn't
exceed the rotary table rpm.

You have what you have and if  not satisfactory then change the mechanics of the system.

RICH

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