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General Mach Discussion / Re: Prices for one-on-one phone tech support.
« on: February 18, 2008, 08:59:21 PM »
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I don't think it is reasonable to expect phone support for a $159 product.   Yes it was great that Art provided phone support at times.  At those times it probably made more sense to just get on the phone and speed the debugging process rather than drag it out over email.  But if you are just looking for info and have time to get the reply, the mass knowledge of the forums is rather large.  If a solution exists you will probably find out about it via the existing sources if you persevere.  If yo don't have time - then a pay for service system makes more sense.

This is my exact point Dave. Well received by you. The number of users that would rather pay a little bit to find an answer quick is growing. Some aren't interested in searching forums or chatting with others. All they want is to get their machine running and running as fast as possible. I think we need to be able to meet these needs. 

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I'm curious about something. Is this an official ArtSoft feature or a sideline business set up to run along side Artsoft, much like NFW that Brian set up?

Mike, Artsoft is supportive of this but it will not be Artsoft, at least not yet. This is just a test, to see how it would be received.

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So......what I'm saying is there needs to be some free telephone support included with the purchase of the software. It doesn't have to be much either, because there is so much free information available on both support sites.


No way. I mean don't get me wrong, It has been very common practice for my self and other members to give free support by phone and remote assist but it is at those individuals leisure. As far as free support, I think this is as good as it will ever get. I can't see Artsoft spending any money to give one-on-one support for a product they have allready spent the money on to have the forums, the manuals, the tutors, etc. On top of this, it is a killer control at an insane low price. This isn't about providing more for the dollar. All the information anybody could want is allready avaliable for free. Nor is it a way to kill anyone or get rich quick. It is simply a way to provide a service that some truley want and for their business to be profitable need. It is in no way to lower the personal contributions of members like yourself or eliminate the truely nice gifts that members share with one another like free phone support. That to me is great alure of the forum. So just aren't interested in that, they only want a machine running because if it isn't, they aren't makeing money with it.

Thanks all for the feed back so far. These are very good points and I truley do appreciate the input.

Brett

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: New Dro's in wiki
« on: February 18, 2008, 03:56:52 AM »
Nice!,

Thanks Nick.

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Metric/English unit help
« on: February 18, 2008, 03:51:53 AM »
Another way may be to add the appropriate code to your Initialization string in General config.

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Prices for one-on-one phone tech support.
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:40:01 PM »
Thanks Jim,
    The idea of the paid contracts and lower per minute calls is to try to help smooth things out. Also, the quanity discount comes into play. Might be best to offer a urgency code at first. Those willing to pay a premium on a call by call basis could decide how fast they needed help and choose to spend for speed or patiently wait. I suspect to start with we will only have a per call price and see how that goes and where if any refinements will be made. This will be a pretty big undertaking in the begining. We have no idea how many calls we will receive, what times will be bussiset, etc.

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: My next retrofit
« on: February 17, 2008, 07:20:53 PM »
I have to agree with Hoods first post. Tell me where to pick it up and I will come get it so I can get it to him.  ;D

This should make one sweet machine! Do have more pics of the existing controls or is that all there is?

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Prices for one-on-one phone tech support.
« on: February 17, 2008, 10:32:27 AM »
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In the free market, those who are willing to pay more for it should get a faster responce.
imho Drew

Thanks Drew, This is a very good point. I don't think there will be a one size fits all option for Phone support. Most likely there will be a pay per call option and one or more "service contract" options. As far as speed of service, the lesser the contract, the lower the priority.

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Is a license required for phone support?

No, a licenses will not be required for phone support. This will be one of first questions asked though. Reason being is that the demo version is not 100%, some features require a licenses to unlock.

Brett


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General Mach Discussion / Re: Softlimits - Message
« on: February 15, 2008, 08:23:33 PM »
Hey RC, they way it should work is this, I can leave my softlimits on, do a ref all home, and my soft limits will never let me hit a limit switch. Sometimes when I do a power up, I will have to disable my softlimits, ref all home the first time, enable softlimits. After this, it is good to go. The reason you can set your softlimit min to 0 is this, when you home the axis it goes till it sees the switch then reverses untill it isn't made. This is Machine 0. Softmin 0 will work here to because remember, it is not making your limit at this point. I don't understand why you get the warning if it is within the limits unless you have not done a ref. all before setting your coord. zeros.

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Parts are being cut smaller than the gcode #s
« on: February 14, 2008, 04:48:46 PM »
Have you had a look at the manuals for Mach?

Brett

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Parts are being cut smaller than the gcode #s
« on: February 14, 2008, 03:54:44 PM »
Most stepper motors are 200 pulses per rev. Are you using steppers or servos?

Brett

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