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General Mach Discussion / Question about wire gauge & applications
« on: April 04, 2011, 09:26:52 PM »

I have started getting everything together. My next concern is the wiring. Most of the signal/communication, and encoders connections on the Dugong drives  & B_O_B board, are RJ45 network connectors.

This cable length(s)  will be  measured after all hardware is temp. mounted  & mocked up.

All cables are going to have factory formed ends on them.

All of the other wiring is what my concern is.  What wire size should be  used for the powering of the Dugongs?

Usually I always go the next size bigger in wire as long as it doesn't affect mobility & flex for the application.

What about re-using some of the wiring that is coming out of the Hurco?

A lot of it looks new and the insulation isn't peeling or cracked. There is about 7,000 mile of wire in that machine. ::)

Not to be cheap, it just seems like a waste to throw it away. Another thing is using different colored wire makes it easy to trace problems.

I have the numbered tube markers for labeling the wire. They are on the Hurco.

Should I just go to an  electronics store and buy 50' each of  stranded wire in the 4 or 5 different colors of most used gauge? 

I want to do this right. It would be a shame to have problems becasue of  a short cut.

A lot of the new wire is made in China and it seems more likely to fail than some of the old Hurco wire.

The  new wire feels cheap.


General Mach Discussion / Re: Newbie
« on: March 28, 2011, 02:58:58 PM »
Hello John,

I've seen you around on the PM site. Glad you're over here. These are some really great guys, and helpful ,too. ;D


General Mach Discussion / Re: new to mach3
« on: March 27, 2011, 12:31:56 PM »
Mine has a small motor 1/10 hp???? that turns the handle on the  side of the head for speed change. There is a sensor on the spindle that sends the info back jto a control card to tell it the rpm.  It has a +/- override switch on the front of the head.

 I will try to hook it up where the override switch will adjust rpm's once Mach turns on the spindle in fwd or reverse.

High/low range will be manually selected for now.


General Mach Discussion / Re: new to mach3
« on: March 27, 2011, 12:04:09 AM »

Glad to see you here. Sounds like you are on the right track. The online manual CNC4PC has will show the connections. You can go ahead and print that out and start studying it.

 For myself, I do better if I download any manual and print a copy that be underlined, notes made, and dirty fingerprints. Then you  can go back and print another if needed. ;D

Here is the C10 wiring guide:


The latest C10 manual:


Other examples at the bottom of this page:


There is a sample XML file, also. It has the basic setup in it. Works sort of like a template and you might have to change a few of the settings to suit your particular machine. It is supposed to be easier than starting from scratch.  At least we will know what kind of  character should go in to the box.

Hood, or some of the other guys can probably tell us the easiest way to put the XML file into Mach. It may be drag & drop with auto configure????

We are at the right place. It will be next week before Arturo will have all 3 of my drives. He shipped 2 on Friday. You must have bought your first and he ran out. (LOL) ;D

I can hardly wait.

Mine will go slower becasue  of picture taking, etc. There isn't much info with pics on these Hurco retrofits out on the web. I haven't seen any detailed about the Dugong drives.

Maybe my hack & butcher job will help someone by showing them what not to do. ;)


General Mach Discussion / Ordered 3 Dugong drives for my Hurco
« on: March 24, 2011, 08:16:38 PM »
Today I ordered 3 Dugong drives for my Hurco KM3p. Also a CNC4PC C32 B_O_B, DG34 Power board, and a c24 parallel connector.

When  I start taking everything apart & building back, it will be  documented with pictures.

Thanks in advance for all the help needed from you guys.

JAckal :)

General Mach Discussion / Re: How to connect buttons in Mach
« on: March 06, 2011, 04:36:06 PM »
I see what you are talking about. Unless you tell a signal to do something and report it back  to Mach, Mach thinks it is done.

All of this is starting to make sense to me now. It took a while, but it is fitting together < ( I think  8)   )

Thanks a lot, Hood.

You are very helpful!!!!!


General Mach Discussion / Re: How to connect buttons in Mach
« on: March 06, 2011, 04:15:39 PM »
So then, just a momentary push button (normally open) switch would work.

I've seen toggle switches on some of the panels. It would seem that  it could be an override  for the coolant pump. If Mach gives an M08 signal, you could have an interrupter switch to  keep the signal from reaching the pump??

Would this work or would Mach know that the signal was blocked & detect broken wire or something?

Thanks a lot,


General Mach Discussion / Re: How to connect buttons in Mach
« on: March 06, 2011, 01:41:08 PM »
Thanks, Hood.

Do you have any wiring diagrams or links to a diagram as a sample?

Thanks again,


General Mach Discussion / How to connect buttons in Mach
« on: March 06, 2011, 11:10:07 AM »
I see these neat control  panels created by Hood and others, and was wondering about the buttons.

When you connect a button to  control for  "feed hold" or something, does it connect to the pin (example pin #18) & to the ground or where does it go?

The layouts and assignment to the pins look straightforward, but the wiring is cloudy to me.

Which way to assign the pin is a little confusing. There is Keygrabber, hotkeys, VB script <( is this really using a brain?) & then you have the PoKeys & Modbus.

A little help on the wiring part, and there is  a lot of info on ways to assign the control number to the button.

I really like the way Hood has his controls . Those track ball keyboards are too cool. Plus he has just the basic buttons that you need.

Hope this isn't too complicated, or stupid. ::)

Thanks in advance,


General Mach Discussion / Re: Anyone using the Ajax control system
« on: February 01, 2011, 12:25:15 PM »
Thanks Capt,
I appreciate the offer.


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